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2 total messages Started by Jerry Schave Fri, 07 Aug 1992 00:54
LAN Traffic Manager (LTM) buffers/protocol
#1
Author: Jerry Schave
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1992 00:54
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Keywords: DEC LTM, network monitoring

Hello out there
I am trying to develop a better method for collecting statistics
from our extended ETHERNET LAN.  We are currently using DECbridges
100's and 150's configured as LAN Traffic Monitors (LTMs) to collect
statistics on each of our ETHERNET basebands which sends their
results back to a VAXstation running LTM which displays the
data on the screen.  There are two basic problems with this
scheme.  The first is that no history of statistics can be
kept unless the user cuts the information from the LTM screens
and pastes it to a file.  Also this method would be much better
if it was automated.  Second since there is a separate program
for each baseband collecting the information there can be no
network wide statistics such as what percentage of a a nodes
traffic is crossing a bridge ect.  I am currently investigating
the feasibility of developing a program which could collect
the information sent by the DECbridges 100/150's which are
configured as LTMs and massaging the data to derive some more
useful network wide statistics and save these to disk every
specified period to develop a histogram of network behavior.

The problem with this idea is that I do not have the format
of the 1490 byte buffers that the LTMs send to the VAXstation 
every reporting period (3 seconds) which contains the information
that the LTM software uses for its information.  I have looked
at the buffers with an analyzer but can develop no template to
place over the buffers to derive the statistics.  I was wondering
if anyone out there had a description (template) for the buffers
that the DECbridges 100/150's configured as LTMs send every reporting
period to the VAX's which contains their statistics.  Also any
information regarding the LTM protocol would be most helpful.
Thankx in advance.

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Re: LAN Traffic Manager (LTM) buffers/protocol
#2
Author: degen
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1992 13:57
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In article <1992Aug7.125459.221@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, cctr143@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Jerry Schave) writes:
> Keywords: DEC LTM, network monitoring
> 
> Hello out there
> I am trying to develop a better method for collecting statistics
> from our extended ETHERNET LAN.  We are currently using DECbridges
> 100's and 150's configured as LAN Traffic Monitors (LTMs) to collect
> statistics on each of our ETHERNET basebands which sends their
> results back to a VAXstation running LTM which displays the

I take it you are running LTM as a point product and don't have
DECMcc.  You're right LTM has very limited usefulness for reporting
statistics.  DEC sells an assets package called LTMReports which
basically collects the ltm packets which are saved in a data file over
a given period of time.  you can then run LTMReports against the
collected data file to generate your reports.  for graphical reports
you need GKS and DATATRIEVE is also helpful.  being an assets package
it's not fully supported and really isn't fully developed....DEC has
spent most of their time developing DECMcc.  Oh yeah, I don't think
you can run LTMReports on the same node you run LTM.....

> The problem with this idea is that I do not have the format
> of the 1490 byte buffers that the LTMs send to the VAXstation 
> every reporting period (3 seconds) which contains the information

You might try posting to the vmsnet.decmcc news group.  some of the DECMcc
developers read that group and may be able to help you out with the 
packet formats.

> 
> -- 
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> | Jerry Schave                 E-Mail   j.schave@csc.canterbury.ac.nz |
> | Computer Services Centre                                            |
> | University of Canterbury              Phone +64 3 364-2329          |
> | Christchurch, New Zealand             Fax   +64 3 364-2332          |
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David Degen           				degen@nrlvax.nrl.navy.mil
Space Systems Dev. Dept.                        (202)574-7299
Naval Research Lab
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