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In article <1410@se.alcbel.be>, mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen) writes:

OK, there is a patch for it. I received it via our maintenance contract but
didn't pay attention to it because we do not intend to upgrade our PDPs
anymore.
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In article <1410@se.alcbel.be>, mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen) writes:
> 
> --
> Since (probably) the 1st of january 1993 we observe the following strange
> thing:
>  Batch jobs submitted with the AFTER qualifier show up in the QUE /LI output 
>  with a wrong date, altough we believe they start running at the correct date.
>  However, we are a little bit suspicious oif this remains so.
>  The systematics seems to be the following
>    - year 93 becomes 77, 94 becomes 78 ,...
>    - hours are incremented by 4 (00 becomes 04, 10 becomes 14) except from 21
>      hours which remains 21 hours.
>  
> So a job submitted /AFTER:10:00:7-JAN-93 shows up as 
>      BLOCKED UNTIL 14:00-7-JAN-77
> but starts running at 10:00:7-JAN-93
>  We expirience this on all our PDPs running RSX 11M+ 4.2 or earlier.
> 
We are experiencing similar results, pretty much identical to what you
describe.  One of our people who was at the US DECUS Spring Symposium in
Atlanta last year remembered and found her notes where someone said "all queues
in RSX11M+ will be nonfunctional after 31 December 1993.   Can anyone relate
"the rest of the story"?

Stan 
319 292 8687

In article <1993Jan6.162744.9674@iscsvax.uni.edu> huhman@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> In article <1410@se.alcbel.be>, mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen) writes:
> > 
> > --
> > Since (probably) the 1st of january 1993 we observe the following strange
> > thing:
> >  Batch jobs submitted with the AFTER qualifier show up in the QUE /LI output 
> >  with a wrong date, altough we believe they start running at the correct date.
> >  However, we are a little bit suspicious oif this remains so.
> >  The systematics seems to be the following
> >    - year 93 becomes 77, 94 becomes 78 ,...
> >    - hours are incremented by 4 (00 becomes 04, 10 becomes 14) except from 21
> >      hours which remains 21 hours.
> >  
> > So a job submitted /AFTER:10:00:7-JAN-93 shows up as 
> >      BLOCKED UNTIL 14:00-7-JAN-77
> > but starts running at 10:00:7-JAN-93
> >  We expirience this on all our PDPs running RSX 11M+ 4.2 or earlier.
> > 
> We are experiencing similar results, pretty much identical to what you
> describe.  One of our people who was at the US DECUS Spring Symposium in
> Atlanta last year remembered and found her notes where someone said "all queues
> in RSX11M+ will be nonfunctional after 31 December 1993.   Can anyone relate
> "the rest of the story"?
> 
> Stan 
> 319 292 8687

This is a known problem for which a patch exists.  Call your DEC salesman.
The order numbers are:

	QR505-H5	M+ V4.3 & Micro/RSX V4.3, TK50
	QR505-HM	M+ V4.3 & Micro/RSX V4.3, 9-track magtape
	QY505-H3	Micro/RSX V4.3, RX50

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In article <1993Jan6.162744.9674@iscsvax.uni.edu>, huhman@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> We are experiencing similar results, pretty much identical to what you
> describe.  One of our people who was at the US DECUS Spring Symposium in
> Atlanta last year remembered and found her notes where someone said "all queues
> in RSX11M+ will be nonfunctional after 31 December 1993.   Can anyone relate
> "the rest of the story"?

  1992, not 1993. The problem is with the way the RSX queue system stores
dates. As far as I know, DEC has a patch kit _for_ _sale_ that works with
the current revision(s?) of RSX. I am told that the patch is not available
from DSIN/DSNlink, but will be included in a future RSX release. Further,
versions of the patch kit released before mid-December genereate an odd
address trap due to a coding problem.

  That's about all I know about it, as I'm running RSTS/E, not RSX. You
should probably talk to whoever you get your RSX support/updates from for
DEC's exact position on the issue.

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