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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:55:45 +0800, "gm"
<gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote:

>Hi all
>
>Anyone out there have a recommendation/suggestion for the best quality and 
>priced lower end Laser printer?  I have been looking up the various brands 
>on the net - i.e. HP, Canon, Samsung etc - so many to choose from... I think 
>best to identify is what others have experience with, which I am sure will 
>help me.
>
>As said looking at the lower end of the laser printers - I was even looking 
>at the mid to higher range of inkjets but would prefer laser for quality
>
>Or if anyone has a used (but near new) they are lookign to seel let me know 
>price and details of the printer
>
>I'm in Perth so only WA suppliers please
>
>Cheers
>
>GM
>
>
You need to be careful with what you chose!

Most lasers will give good quality prints when new - unfortunately
most have poor quality drums which wear and the quality decreases.
Then you have to buy a new "drum kit" - usually expensive.

Some lasers have a "print cartridge" which contains a drum and the
toner that you have to buy every time. This means the print quality
stays reasonable as you are continuously replacing the drum - but
again this can be expensive.

You really need to calculate the cost over a period of time taking
into account purchase cost and cost of toner/drum per print plus look
at how the quality detiorates over time.

I had a Brother laser that was costing me $299.00 for new drums and
about $50.00 for toner (approx 5000 pages) but I was changing the drum
probably twice a year because the print quality got so bad (vertical
white stripes - no print).  It was readable but not the quality I
needed for making up small booklets.

About a year ago I changed over to a Kyocera-Mita FS1010 which is
supposed to have a drum life of something like 100,000 pages. The
print quality is superb up to now (about 2,000 pages) while the
Brother print outs would have been streaky by now.

The other thing with cheap laser printers is that the initial cost is
low but you pay for it in consummables over time.

HTH

Alan

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Manufacturers and Suppliers of HF Selcall
P O Box 1108, Morley, WA, 6943
Tel: +61 8 9370 5533 Fax +61 8 9467 6146
Web Site: http://www.jenal.com 
Contact: http://www.jenal.com/?p=1
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"Alan" <me@somewhere.com.au.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:55:45 +0800, "gm"
> <gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote:
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>Anyone out there have a recommendation/suggestion for the best quality and
>>priced lower end Laser printer?  I have been looking up the various brands
>>on the net - i.e. HP, Canon, Samsung etc - so many to choose from... I 
>>think
>>best to identify is what others have experience with, which I am sure will
>>help me.
>>
>>As said looking at the lower end of the laser printers - I was even 
>>looking
>>at the mid to higher range of inkjets but would prefer laser for quality
>>
>>Or if anyone has a used (but near new) they are lookign to seel let me 
>>know
>>price and details of the printer
>>
>>I'm in Perth so only WA suppliers please
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>GM
>>
>>
> You need to be careful with what you chose!
>
> Most lasers will give good quality prints when new - unfortunately
> most have poor quality drums which wear and the quality decreases.
> Then you have to buy a new "drum kit" - usually expensive.
>
> Some lasers have a "print cartridge" which contains a drum and the
> toner that you have to buy every time. This means the print quality
> stays reasonable as you are continuously replacing the drum - but
> again this can be expensive.
>
> You really need to calculate the cost over a period of time taking
> into account purchase cost and cost of toner/drum per print plus look
> at how the quality detiorates over time.
>
> I had a Brother laser that was costing me $299.00 for new drums and
> about $50.00 for toner (approx 5000 pages) but I was changing the drum
> probably twice a year because the print quality got so bad (vertical
> white stripes - no print).  It was readable but not the quality I
> needed for making up small booklets.
>
> About a year ago I changed over to a Kyocera-Mita FS1010 which is
> supposed to have a drum life of something like 100,000 pages. The
> print quality is superb up to now (about 2,000 pages) while the
> Brother print outs would have been streaky by now.
>
> The other thing with cheap laser printers is that the initial cost is
> low but you pay for it in consummables over time.
>
> HTH
>
> Alan
>


Alan

Thanks for the info and I thought this would be the case.

My main dilemma has been to go inkjet again or to go Laser?  Hence my 
questions...

Hopefully others wil provide advice to me also so I can build a good picture 
of what to do and what is best to spend my money on - noting I don't have 
alot :)

Cheers

GM

BW laser ?
Minolta is having a special on their 1300w range [16ppm and it ends 
tomorrow]
$180 after $50 cash back ... 3 years warranty on PARTS and DRUM :)

=bob=

"gm" <gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote in message 
news:4271f6f5$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Hi all
>
> Anyone out there have a recommendation/suggestion for the best quality and 
> priced lower end Laser printer?  I have been looking up the various brands 
> on the net - i.e. HP, Canon, Samsung etc - so many to choose from... I 
> think best to identify is what others have experience with, which I am 
> sure will help me.
>
> As said looking at the lower end of the laser printers - I was even 
> looking at the mid to higher range of inkjets but would prefer laser for 
> quality
>
> Or if anyone has a used (but near new) they are lookign to seel let me 
> know price and details of the printer
>
> I'm in Perth so only WA suppliers please
>
> Cheers
>
> GM
>
>
> 

"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message 
news:42721e0b$0$8311$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> BW laser ?
> Minolta is having a special on their 1300w range [16ppm and it ends 
> tomorrow]
> $180 after $50 cash back ... 3 years warranty on PARTS and DRUM :)
>
> =bob=
>

Any details/feedback on how good the printer is and quality, especially 
after considerable use, i.e. drum wear - how good is it?

Cheers
GM 

I am a reseller , so best not to ask me :)

So far .. we sold a few dozen 1200W none has returned [2+ years ago] and we 
offload more than a dozen 1300W for SOHO , none returned as well.
But don't do 1000 pages / day in one go like one of our client did with a HP 
LJ 1100 , it almost melt the roller :)

=bob=


"gm" <gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote in message 
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>
> Any details/feedback on how good the printer is and quality, especially 
> after considerable use, i.e. drum wear - how good is it?
>
> Cheers
> GM
> 

haha - I'd be lucky to do 50 to 100 per day :)

What is the cost of replacement cartridges and drum's and how many prints 
does each one do?

Cheers

GM

"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message 
news:42722969$0$8282$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>I am a reseller , so best not to ask me :)
>
> So far .. we sold a few dozen 1200W none has returned [2+ years ago] and 
> we offload more than a dozen 1300W for SOHO , none returned as well.
> But don't do 1000 pages / day in one go like one of our client did with a 
> HP LJ 1100 , it almost melt the roller :)
>
> =bob=
>
>
> "gm" <gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote in message 
> news:42721f9d$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>
>> Any details/feedback on how good the printer is and quality, especially 
>> after considerable use, i.e. drum wear - how good is it?
>>
>> Cheers
>> GM
>>
>
> 

gm wrote:

> "Alan" <me@somewhere.com.au.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:l62471hcah0fj066jhld18r52lanbjtbas@4ax.com...
> 
>>On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:55:45 +0800, "gm"
>><gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi all
>>>
>>>Anyone out there have a recommendation/suggestion for the best quality and
>>>priced lower end Laser printer?  I have been looking up the various brands
>>>on the net - i.e. HP, Canon, Samsung etc - so many to choose from... I 
>>>think
>>>best to identify is what others have experience with, which I am sure will
>>>help me.
>>>
>>>As said looking at the lower end of the laser printers - I was even 
>>>looking
>>>at the mid to higher range of inkjets but would prefer laser for quality
>>>
>>>Or if anyone has a used (but near new) they are lookign to seel let me 
>>>know
>>>price and details of the printer
>>>
>>>I'm in Perth so only WA suppliers please
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>GM
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You need to be careful with what you chose!
>>
>>Most lasers will give good quality prints when new - unfortunately
>>most have poor quality drums which wear and the quality decreases.
>>Then you have to buy a new "drum kit" - usually expensive.
>>
>>Some lasers have a "print cartridge" which contains a drum and the
>>toner that you have to buy every time. This means the print quality
>>stays reasonable as you are continuously replacing the drum - but
>>again this can be expensive.
>>
>>You really need to calculate the cost over a period of time taking
>>into account purchase cost and cost of toner/drum per print plus look
>>at how the quality detiorates over time.
>>
>>I had a Brother laser that was costing me $299.00 for new drums and
>>about $50.00 for toner (approx 5000 pages) but I was changing the drum
>>probably twice a year because the print quality got so bad (vertical
>>white stripes - no print).  It was readable but not the quality I
>>needed for making up small booklets.
>>
>>About a year ago I changed over to a Kyocera-Mita FS1010 which is
>>supposed to have a drum life of something like 100,000 pages. The
>>print quality is superb up to now (about 2,000 pages) while the
>>Brother print outs would have been streaky by now.
>>
>>The other thing with cheap laser printers is that the initial cost is
>>low but you pay for it in consummables over time.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Alan
>>
> 
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Thanks for the info and I thought this would be the case.
> 
> My main dilemma has been to go inkjet again or to go Laser?  Hence my 
> questions...
> 
> Hopefully others wil provide advice to me also so I can build a good picture 
> of what to do and what is best to spend my money on - noting I don't have 
> alot :)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> GM
> 
> 
> 
We have a Lexmark E220.
Cost around $220.00
Cartridges are arount $120 and deliver around 3000-400 pages of average 
letters.
Print quality is good but you need to fan paper well or it may pick up 
the occasional double sheet.
We find it quicker and more economical than an inkjet.

I have a Kyocera FS-1000+. I've done roughly 4000-4500 prints. Quality is 
the same as it was new. I'm still running the toner than came in the box! 
Toner cart is $100-$130. I highly recommend a Kyocera laser. A little dearer 
at the start but much cheaper with consumables.

I've had the FS 1000+ since either 2001 or early 2002. It's been turned on 
since then too. Only time it gets turned off is when there is a black out.

Brenden

"gm" <gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote in message 
news:4271f6f5$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Hi all
>
> Anyone out there have a recommendation/suggestion for the best quality and 
> priced lower end Laser printer?  I have been looking up the various brands 
> on the net - i.e. HP, Canon, Samsung etc - so many to choose from... I 
> think best to identify is what others have experience with, which I am 
> sure will help me.
>
> As said looking at the lower end of the laser printers - I was even 
> looking at the mid to higher range of inkjets but would prefer laser for 
> quality
>
> Or if anyone has a used (but near new) they are lookign to seel let me 
> know price and details of the printer
>
> I'm in Perth so only WA suppliers please
>
> Cheers
>
> GM
>
>
> 

Brenden, you selling or just recommedning? could not tell from your message.

What life does the drum have?

Sounds like a good printer though and I'll certainly check it out.

Cheers

GM

"Brenden Will" <brenx@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:bwMde.1848$31.479@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I have a Kyocera FS-1000+. I've done roughly 4000-4500 prints. Quality is 
>the same as it was new. I'm still running the toner than came in the box! 
>Toner cart is $100-$130. I highly recommend a Kyocera laser. A little 
>dearer at the start but much cheaper with consumables.
>
> I've had the FS 1000+ since either 2001 or early 2002. It's been turned on 
> since then too. Only time it gets turned off is when there is a black out.
>
> Brenden
>
> "gm" <gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote in message 
> news:4271f6f5$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>> Hi all
>>
>> Anyone out there have a recommendation/suggestion for the best quality 
>> and priced lower end Laser printer?  I have been looking up the various 
>> brands on the net - i.e. HP, Canon, Samsung etc - so many to choose 
>> from... I think best to identify is what others have experience with, 
>> which I am sure will help me.
>>
>> As said looking at the lower end of the laser printers - I was even 
>> looking at the mid to higher range of inkjets but would prefer laser for 
>> quality
>>
>> Or if anyone has a used (but near new) they are lookign to seel let me 
>> know price and details of the printer
>>
>> I'm in Perth so only WA suppliers please
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> GM
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:05:50 +0800, "gm" <gregatworkathotmail.com>
wrote:

>Brenden, you selling or just recommedning? could not tell from your message.
>
>What life does the drum have?
>
>Sounds like a good printer though and I'll certainly check it out.
>
>Cheers
>
>GM


Drum life is quoted at 100,000 pages fro the Kyocera printers (FS1000,
FS1010 and FS1020)

http://kyoceramita.com.au/printer_fs_1020d.asp


Alan


>
>"Brenden Will" <brenx@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:bwMde.1848$31.479@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>I have a Kyocera FS-1000+. I've done roughly 4000-4500 prints. Quality is 
>>the same as it was new. I'm still running the toner than came in the box! 
>>Toner cart is $100-$130. I highly recommend a Kyocera laser. A little 
>>dearer at the start but much cheaper with consumables.
>>
>> I've had the FS 1000+ since either 2001 or early 2002. It's been turned on 
>> since then too. Only time it gets turned off is when there is a black out.
>>
>> Brenden
>>
>> "gm" <gregatwork@hotmail.comSPAMMER PISS OFF> wrote in message 
>> news:4271f6f5$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Anyone out there have a recommendation/suggestion for the best quality 
>>> and priced lower end Laser printer?  I have been looking up the various 
>>> brands on the net - i.e. HP, Canon, Samsung etc - so many to choose 
>>> from... I think best to identify is what others have experience with, 
>>> which I am sure will help me.
>>>
>>> As said looking at the lower end of the laser printers - I was even 
>>> looking at the mid to higher range of inkjets but would prefer laser for 
>>> quality
>>>
>>> Or if anyone has a used (but near new) they are lookign to seel let me 
>>> know price and details of the printer
>>>
>>> I'm in Perth so only WA suppliers please
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
>

-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jenal Communications
Manufacturers and Suppliers of HF Selcall
P O Box 1108, Morley, WA, 6943
Tel: +61 8 9370 5533 Fax +61 8 9467 6146
Web Site: http://www.jenal.com 
Contact: http://www.jenal.com/?p=1
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++