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Re: Bowling for Columbine - Stats

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From: Michael
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:16
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Stygen wrote:
> Had a good watch of Bowling for Columbine the other day.  I thought I would
> transcribe some of the stats for a bit of a laugh at the expense of the U.S.
> This is an intersting docufilm about gun control (or lack thereof) in the
> US.  I recommend watching it.

Great movie, but MM isnt always a stickler for accuracy. And he doesnt 
care too much when he gets it way wrong, because "the political message 
is the important bit".

The list has exagerations and distortions, but the gist is correct.

> The film gives the impression that the US have not only brought the current
> terrorist situation on themselves,

Whoa!!! I didnt get that at all. I think you are reading too much. He is 
talking about fear, and gun culture.

> but also goes as far as to blam the US
> for many of the problems in the rest of the world.  

Such as?

> So has the constant propaganda and hate mongering by the US administration

I think you need to take your own blinkers off.

But, glad to see you get back on topic:

> So living in the US makes you ten times more likely to be shot dead..
> niiiiice.

Actually, it depends where you live.
Young, male, black, inner big-city - more like 1000 times more likely.
Something Moore didnt want to address.

> Lets take this point a little further.
> Do you recall when a lot of impressionable kids were going to school and
> shooting everyone?

Cowboys & Indians?

>  There is often 3 or 4 of these incidents in short
> succession.  This also corresponds with increased hate mongering propaganda
> based on whoever the US intends to attack next (does this bear any
> resembelence to Nazi Germany?).

Nope, none whatsoever. Why does everything degenerate to Godwins Law?

>  So...  What are the chances of a few
> schoolyard shootings over the next few months as these poor young kids are
> innundated with government hate mongering propaganda?

You are really clueless about what is happening over there. Yes, post 
11-9 there was plenty of anger and hate. But try actually reading some
of the speeches and editorials in the US. Its full of qualifications
about how the Iranian "people" are not the enemy. Hardly hate-mongering.

> This post doesnt really have a point (sorry), it is really just a rant. 

No kidding. Your thesis is wrong. Such crimes are more likely to 
DECREASE in wartime. Feel free to speculate why.

I cant be bothered to cite any sources, so I'm probably talking crap too.
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