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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:22:39 GMT, "Bevan" <Bevan@bigpond.com> wrote:

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>> CSIRO today said that not only the Earth is heating up in the last 30
>> years but all the other planets in our solar system.
>>
>> Apparently its a cycle that we are in and its happened many times
>> before in our past.
>>
>> There does not seem to be any middle ground. The ones pushing that the
>> planet is doomed are to far to one side while other others that
>> disagree are not that sure either.
>>
>> I for one do not know what to make of it all.
>> I remember when at school 30 years ago that they were saying we might
>> enter into an ice age, now they say we may be heating up.
>>
>> I've seen the Al Gore movie, mainly bulldust. The better one is Crude
>> which really explained the science behind it all. There was another
>> one from the BBC where on the ABC they had a panel that was against
>> and for the documentary. They had a pretty good scientist debunking
>> the documentary.
>>
>> If you are un employed and want some money from the government say
>> that you are setting up a study on greenhouse and they'll give you
>> buckets of money. No doubt if you are getting paid then the studies
>> will lean one way more than another.
>>
>> I'd like to see more on the heating of the other planets and what the
>> planet Mars is doing along with all the moons.
>>
>> Why would Mars be heating up in the last 30 years ?
>> There is no humans on Mars to cause a temp spike like what we are
>> seeing here on Earth.
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>> Fot now I'll continue to save power in case the doom stayers are
>> right. I reckon we ought to move to Nuclear power while the debate on
>> who's right or wrong is going on. Nuclear power has no carbon poising
>> unlike everything else.
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>Not much point focusing on doomsday, it may happen now or in a million years
>from now. We all die. I reckon its best to focus on saving fuel so it will
>last longer, and try to cut down smog to improve our own life span and that
>of all other life. If we do that the rest will follow, eg: more vegetation =
>more O2, Less burning of fossil fuels = cleaner air,
>less fossil fuel care = cleaner air. We need to take a holistic (everything
>has to be in balance) approach to our biggest ecosystem (The world)

The problem is not everyone is honest. Where there is money to be made
the smog problem will go on for decades. If you were in the coal
industry you'd be doing everything you can to trick the population
into clean coal which is the biggest joke of all. Clean coal only
cleans it up by about 10% if you are lucky. Gas is a better option but
won't happen in my life time because to much money is being generated
by coal.

China to build 500 new coal power stations this year and only 50 new
nuclear reactors. There goes the planet.

The coal industry here won't ever allow nuclear power. They'll fund
the rent a crowd groups to rally against nuclear power. Solar is a
waste of time. Solar power cars and solar power on your roof is far to
expensive at $20,000 and what they don't tell you is that every 5
years you have to pay another $8000 for batteries for the house and
$5000 for your hybrid petrol/electric car which costs about $6000 more
than a petrol car.

Electric cars are worse than petrol because they have to be re charged
at night and if the city is using coal powered stations then they'll
require to burn more coal just to re charge the car. Hybrid cars are
ok but the cost of batteries every 5 years makes it not worth doing.

Those special light bulbs that are energy savers have mercury in them
which is the second most deadly chemical in Australia. Many are
dumping them into the bin which gets into the water table. Surely
governments or councils ought to have a special disposal bin for these
globes so that they can be deposed of properly.

The other problem with mercury light saving globes is what ever you do
don't break one in your house. Do not use the vacuum cleaner as that
will spread the deadly chemical around the rooms. Use a damp/wet cloth
and dispose of that too and hope for the best.

Nano Carbon technology in the years ahead maybe the answer for petrol
cars as this brings the weight of a car down from 2 or 3 tonnes to
only 200kg which saves up to 90% on greenhouse gases.

I'd go Nuclear right now until they master helium-3. Helium 3 is on
the moon which is why they are all trying to get back there. 6 tonnes
of helium 3 is enough to run whe whole of England power for a whole
year and no radiation at all as helium 3 joins isotopes where nuclear
splits atoms which causes radiation.

Thorium is another answer where it burns nuclear waste.
Australia has the biggest reserve of thorium and uranium in the world.
About time we used it. Australia only has one nuclear reactor built
back in 1975 which is used in nuclear medicine which is in every
hospital in Australia.