Article View: wa.general
Article #626Re: March against crime - Joan Torr's Army Against Crime
From: Ned Latham
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 00:00
51 lines
3049 bytes
3049 bytes
Lugnut <ausbiz@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > Aldis Ozols <aldis@zeta.org.au> wrote: > > > Lugnut wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 01:24:16 GMT, bcl@removethis.ozemail.com.au (Bruce > > > Lloyd) wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 12:34:20 GMT, nenosed@apex.met.au (Ned Latham) > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ok, define what law/s are unjust. > > > > > > > > Laws which create 'crimes' where there is no victim? > > > > > > can you elaborate a little please? some examples? > > > thanks > > > > Laws against drug use, laws against pornography, laws against nudity. > > wow, now this is a very interesting turn of events :-) > I would argue that drug use does have victims - the user, the users > family and/or those who care about him, The user is a victim only in the event of making an uninformed or misinformed choice. Ditto the family, etc. You can make a case against the tobacco companies on that ground, but not other pushers, I think. > and any laws the user breaks > while under the influence or under compulsion of cravings to get money > for drugs. This is a misdirected thought. People have been getting away with serious crimes for years because the Courts accept it, but in my opinion, in so doing they are conspiring with the criminal. Unless a person is dosed without their knowledge or consent, they are responsible for their condition, and therefore must be held responsible for their actions. The drug didn't do it, the person did. ----snip---- Ned -- To reply, cut out my nose and make the met a net.
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<slrn825gss.16c.nenosed@localhost.localdomain>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mailReferences:
<381d00ed.6697537@news.m.iinet.net.au> <381e8739.1601169@news.m.iinet.net.au> <nMBT3.863$Q3.3259@ozemail.com.au> <381ef41c.29480137@news.m.iinet.net.au> <HTJT3.68$46.621@ozemail.com.au> <381f8c06.429317@news.m.iinet.net.au> <381F9343.107C35B3@zeta.org.au> <381f95c0.2919957@news.m.iinet.net.au> <slrn8207k5.bjh.nenosed@localhost.localdomain> <3820d682.171319963@news.ozemail.com.au> <3820f85d.462171@news.m.iinet.net.au> <3820FC99.2EFD918B@zeta.org.au> <3820fc80.1521296@news.m.iinet.net.au>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1056b9,f1849926ff12a566 X-Google-Attributes: gid1056b9,public X-Google-Thread: 10df0c,f1849926ff12a566 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df0c,public X-Google-Thread: 1083c4,f1849926ff12a566 X-Google-Attributes: gid1083c4,public From: nenosed@apex.met.au (Ned Latham) Subject: Re: March against crime - Joan Torr's Army Against Crime Date: 1999/11/05 Message-ID: <slrn825gss.16c.nenosed@localhost.localdomain> X-Deja-AN: 544790038 Cache-Post-Path: draal.apex.net.au!unknown@210.9.66.211 References: <381d00ed.6697537@news.m.iinet.net.au> <381e8739.1601169@news.m.iinet.net.au> <nMBT3.863$Q3.3259@ozemail.com.au> <381ef41c.29480137@news.m.iinet.net.au> <HTJT3.68$46.621@ozemail.com.au> <381f8c06.429317@news.m.iinet.net.au> <381F9343.107C35B3@zeta.org.au> <381f95c0.2919957@news.m.iinet.net.au> <slrn8207k5.bjh.nenosed@localhost.localdomain> <3820d682.171319963@news.ozemail.com.au> <3820f85d.462171@news.m.iinet.net.au> <3820FC99.2EFD918B@zeta.org.au> <3820fc80.1521296@news.m.iinet.net.au> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telstra.net X-Trace: nsw.nnrp.telstra.net 941805788 203.37.10.195 (Fri, 05 Nov 1999 23:43:08 EST) Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Reply-To: nenosed@apex.met.au NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 23:43:08 EST Newsgroups: wa.general,aus.general,aus.politics