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Re: The net is a RORT!!!

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From: Luke Webber
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:00
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dcampbell@southwest.com.au (Dean Campbell) writes:

>I have always been fascinated buy the figures that get QUOTED . I have
>even posted messages deliberately written to " Stir up the natives "
>to see what sort of response I get . The best I ever got was 16 replys
>from a message posted in 5 different groups that should have seen me
>inundated with accusations of being a sexist pig and racially
>intolerant (im not but I wanted a response ) 

Maybe it's more because people are learning to recognise that type of 
troll and grant it the dignity it deserves. I'd be interested to know 
what groups you were posting to as well. Some of the groups are pretty 
poorly subscribed.

>Lets assume there is only 1 million people (cough , splutter)  on the
>net and only   .01 percent (thats a pritty small amount) of those
>people could be bothered to reply !!!  I should still have got around
>100 replys !  Sure not everyone hangs around the same groups but I
>posted to groups that have a good turnover of messages ! Not everyone
>hangs around news groups , but lets face it there is something like
>10,000 ++ newsgroups ...they cant all be unused . Lets say only 10
>people use each group ......10 X 10,000 thats a lot of people ! OR is
>it . 

"On the net" doesn't mean that they subscribe to usenet news, and of 
those who do, how many subscribe to those five out of the thousands of 
available newsgroups? Of those, how many could be bothered to flame a 
blatant troll?

>Lets try an experiment here !!!!  I know I have an audience of several
>thousand people maybe more according to the statistics so lets see how
>many people respond to this message !!!!!  Just answer the questions
>below and post it ...it should only take all of 1 minute !!!! Feel
>free to respond by e-mail if you wish ...I will repost the message in
>here so we can all get an idea of how many people are out there !

Please don't repost all of your email replies (assuming you get any). A 
summary would be far more civilised.

>I personally think we are being taken for saps by the BIG BOYS who
>like to sell us the fastest modems and flashest computors !!!

In some cases you may be right. I don't know where anybody comes by the 
idea that you need a fast system to access the net, but that seems to be 
the perception some people are fostering.

>Q1     How many news groups do you subscribe too ??

Around 20.

>Q2    What is the greatest amount of replys you have had to one
>posting ??

I couldn't be certain, but some threads can go on for a while. Maybe 20?

>Q3    Do you believe the QUOTED figures of how many people are on the
>net !

Not exactly. I'm certain some of the figures are pretty rubbery, but I'd 
take it as a reasonable guide with maybe 30% error.

>Q4    Do you believe this message will get more than 10 or 15 replys !

Yup. It's certainly provocative enough. 

>Q5   If you run a business and use the net for advertising what sort
>of response do you get from your postings (honestly) ??

For ADVERTISING? You dumb prawn, if you're talking about ad posts, I'd be 
surprised if you get any response at all in usenet. OK, there are 
commercial newsgroups, but how many people subscribe those? If you post 
commercial articles outside those groups, you're posting inappropriately.

If you want to advertise, use the Web, that's just one long commercial 
break anyway.

>Please post your replys to this message in here ...you can e-mail me
>if you wish ...I will cut and paste the replys back in here . I would
>just like to see (and I am sure others would too) how many people
>reply to this . I will be very suprised if it gets more than 10 or 15
>replys ! Even if 30 or 40 people take the time to reply that is way
>below .01 percent of an already heavily discounted figure of 1 million
>!

>But then again there are millions of people out there on the net so I
>may be wrong .......RIGHT !

Conspiracy theory? Look out for the men in the white coats, buddy. <g>

>This is just something that has been stuck in my craw for a while ! 
>This message will either become the record holder of the most replyed
>to message on the net (highly unlikly) or it will prove my point
>.......

>THE INTERNET IS A RORT !!!!!

OK, the net is a rort, for any bugger who thinks it is other than what it 
actually is. It's oversold and overhyped, but it's a terrific tool and a 
great social medium if you know what to expect of it. If it doesn't suit 
you, I'm sorry.

 >Dean Campbell

>Oh yea ...I have only posted this to 2 groups ...Lets see what happens
>!


-- 
Luke Webber

* Note: The opinions expressed by Luke Webber are in no way supported *
*       by his employers, Luke Webber Consulting Services             *
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From: luke@ozramp.ozramp.net.au (Luke Webber)
Subject: Re: The net is a RORT!!!
Date: 1996/11/29
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