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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message 
news:pan.2004.10.25.19.43.28.454535@you.now...
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:49:09 +0000, Uncle Samuel wrote:
>
>> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:26:06 +0000, Uncle Samuel wrote:
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>>>
>>>>John Thompson wrote:
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>>>>>You have to admit, though, it certainly doesn't read like a very
>>>>>enthusiastic endorsement...
>>>>
>>>>Oh...it has to be "enthusiastic" does it?
>>>>
>>>>They're freaking COMMIES you dipstick!
>>>>
>>>>They think Skerry is helpful to THEIR cause!
>>>>
>>>>Sheesh!
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, the American communist party is a labor party.
>>
>> roflmao!!!
>>
>> yeh, hard labor, Gulag style labor!
>
> You should learn something about communism before you poke fun at it.
>
> There's never been a communist government on this planet.

That is the standard excuse given by the apologists for the failure of 
communism. I think that there must be a manual somebody distributes to the 
true believers such as Ivan so that they can be certain to adhere to the 
party line. They are all so consistent.

That is the essence of the problem with the theory of Communism, Ivan. In 
practice, a society in which power ends up in the hands of a few elite (the 
vangard, in Marx's terms)  inevitably degenerates into just another despotic 
government. And this particular varient of despotism is more dangerous than 
most, as it is combined with a belief in the unaceptability of error.

The succcess of communism is judged by its results, not some scriblings on a 
piece of paper by a long-dead crackpot.

James