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Glen Hallick wrote:
> "Carter Lee" <crlee@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3E70A75D.1020508@ns.sympatico.ca...
> 
>>Glen Hallick wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>What threat does Iraq pose to the US?
>>>>
>>>>It is a destabilizing influence on the Middle East, a very economically
>>>>important part of the world.  Because we don't live in a vacuum it is
>>>>therefore a threat to most of the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>Exactly how is Iraq a destabilizing influence in the Middle East.
>>
>>If you have to ask that question you wouldn't understand the answer.

> Heh, sounds more like you haven't got the faintest clue.

Cogent.


>>  Other than
>>
>>>Iraq invading Iran in 1980, to which the US and the West were quite
>>
> happy
> 
>>>with, and the invasion of Kuwait in 1990, what else has Iraq done to
>>>destablize the region?
>>
>>Isn't that enough?

> There's more.
> 
> Iraq forces have raided Turkish territory in the pursuit of Kurd rebels.
> Turkey has also pursued rebels
> into Iraq. Is this enough?

Sure but the stuff you mentioned first is IMO enough.


>>>Ever think that Iraqi civilians, regardless of what they may think of
>>>Saddamn Hussein, see the US and the UK as a threat?

>>Sure they do, Saddam told them so.

> So they are incapable of thinking for themselves and so need the
> militaristic paternalism of the US to guide them.

I'm sure they are capable of thinking for themselves.  They cannot 
however do much thinking about western society and democracy when they 
are kept isolated and fed bullshit.


>>BTW it is only those who still live there, probably because they don't
>>have the resources to leave, who believe that.  Those who have left
>>clearly don't believe that.

> Yup sounds like to me you don't give Iraqi civilians a hell of a lot of
> credit.

BS. It is Saddam and his repressive regime that lacks an credit from me. 
The Iraqi people are the victims of that regime.

Don't you think it is telling that Iraqi soldiers surrendered by the 
thousands during the gulf war and in fact some have, just last week, 
attempted to surrender to British forces in Kuwait, with no war started?

Carter