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Article #4666Re: Gun Registry
From: Andrew
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:31
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:31
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"Frank E. Spencer" <romstar.orion@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:wIyT9.7494$Hs3.872208@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Andrew" <andrewnospam@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:vBxT9.12660$Yo4.719078@news1.calgary.shaw.ca... > > So you're saying that the government should hold services that I pay for > as > > hostage until I let them brand a barcode on my arm? > > > > Andrew > > I'm not saying they SHOULD do it. I am saying they already do it. Wake up. > You pay for the DMV, and they refuse you service if you owe money. > So, it's no stretch of the imagination for me to believe that they would > refuse you medical service until they have your DNA sample in the database. I'm sorry but me owning the government money in no way correlates to me owing them access to my DNA. > Hey, it's for your protection. It let's us help you, and treat you > better........and deny you services based on the notion that your DNA says > it's pointless to give you that treatment because your DNA model suggests > you'll be dead in 12 months of cancer anyway. Why should the goverment know more about my health than my doctor, family or myself? A moral question here that no-one in North America has answered yet. Should you be denied health care that may extend your lifespan even if it is only for 12 months? Who would be the person to decide the guidelines? I take a firm stand that my government has absolutely no business assessing my health. That is between me and my health care provider. The government may pay the bills but I give them the money to cover it. > It's pretty basic. They decide that a DNA database should be made. They make > it law that everyone must provide a sample. The first moment you step into a > doctor's office, or the hospital they take your sample. If you don't let > them, you don't get served. > That is what they will do. Just to avoid the objections and protests. Or, > they will simply help themselves without telling you, because hey, it's the > law that you provide one. What are you bitching about? Do you have something > to hide? Ah, that old argument. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. This is exactly how the Nazi SS troops operated as they went frome home to home murdering anyone they felt like. Do you realize that your argument directly opposes the rights and freedoms afforded to the citizens of every democratic society out there? I am not goverment property. > This is the government we are talking about. They'll do whatever they please > because we've damn well let them for so long. Think about it. Do you really think that it will happen? Civilzations have fallen for less than that. Thihs country is already way too socialist as it is. What happens when we turn our liberties completely over to the government? What happens when Canada becomes a completely socialist country. It is not far fetched to assume the US might take some pretty strong actions against this. > Frank E. Spencer > >
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