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Re: Gun Registry

#4693
From: Craig Tataryn
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:54
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I aggree, the only time a firearm should be visible, loaded and used is
under controlled conditions and never in public.  I took the firearms saftey
course and it is a really good program.  I always treat my gun as if it were
loaded even when I know for a fact it is not.

Craig.

Sensei Brent wrote:
> You can build a private range at your cabin and have it certified.
> The stats on people using guns for self defense are appalling,  they
> have a better chance of hurting you or someone you love just as much
> as they do the intruder, that is from the US where you can sleep with
> the loaded gun under your pillow.
>
> I would not support making the long arms not available for hunting,
> don't believe that happened in britain either.  Firing of guns even
> on private property needs to be controlled as bullets do not respect
> property lines.  As for the stops with a restricted firearms, I
> understood in the course that you could make normal short stops but
> not extended.  You can get very liberal ATTs that allow a broad range
> of transport time etc within your province.  You can make extended
> stops but you must control the firearms (i.e. can't leave them in the
> vehicle while you sleep in the motel).  I was primarily talking about
> the requirements for keeping them locked during transport, I don't
> have a problem with it.  If the guy who got convicted of manslaughter
> just recently had done so he wouldn't have "accidentally" had the gun
> go off because it would have been unloaded and locked, the kids would
> have been gone before he got the gun ready to shoot.
>
> Sensei Brent
>
> Craig Tataryn wrote:
>
>> Well, I am fine with the existing non-restricted storage laws, I
>> believe them to be more than adequate. If someone broke into my
>> house and they gave me a minute to go grab my gun, I still wouldn't
>> have enough time to unlock them and load them :)  It's the
>> transportation law that I would have a problem with.  For instance,
>> with restricted firearms such as pistols, you literally cannot stop
>> at McDonalds for a burger after hitting the shooting range.  As
>> well, you wouldn't be able to bring it out to your cottage for
>> target practice either.  I take my guns out to Kenora to a friends
>> cabin to shoot skeet (and we make multiple stops going there and
>> coming back), if long arms became restricted the only shooting you
>> would be doing is at the range.
>>
>> Craig.
>>
>> Sensei Brent wrote:
>>> Craig Tataryn wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would feel a whole lot better about the gun registry if they put
>>>> a statement in the act that said:
>>>>
>>>> "All non-restricted firearms registered will remain as
>>>> non-restrticted".  I believe other countries such as UK/Austrailia
>>>> imposed similar laws as the one we are implementing.  Once their
>>>> law abiding citizens registered their non-restricted firearms
>>>> (shotguns, hunting rifles) they said "Oh, by the way we are now
>>>> classifying guns those as restricted/phrohibited"
>>>>
>>>> Correct me if I am wrong, as I may not have all the details
>>>> correct.
>>>>
>>>> Craig.
>>>
>>> When all are registered the only difference between restricted and
>>> unrestricted is the transfer, storage and transportation
>>> requirements. Does it really matter. I don't see any problem
>>> requiring the more stringent storage/ transportation  requirements
>>> for long arms.  In effect all firearms are to some degree restricted
>>> as you must have a license and register them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Prohibited is another matter, but they will not prohibit long-arms
>>> because of the large rural base, particularly in northern Canada,
>>> that legitimately needs them.  The list has to remain open  to some
>>> degree to classify new or modified weapons.
>>>
>>> And by the way I am a shooter who fully supports the gun laws.
>>>
>>> Sensei Brent
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