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Article #4693Re: Gun Registry
From: Craig Tataryn
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:54
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:54
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I aggree, the only time a firearm should be visible, loaded and used is under controlled conditions and never in public. I took the firearms saftey course and it is a really good program. I always treat my gun as if it were loaded even when I know for a fact it is not. Craig. Sensei Brent wrote: > You can build a private range at your cabin and have it certified. > The stats on people using guns for self defense are appalling, they > have a better chance of hurting you or someone you love just as much > as they do the intruder, that is from the US where you can sleep with > the loaded gun under your pillow. > > I would not support making the long arms not available for hunting, > don't believe that happened in britain either. Firing of guns even > on private property needs to be controlled as bullets do not respect > property lines. As for the stops with a restricted firearms, I > understood in the course that you could make normal short stops but > not extended. You can get very liberal ATTs that allow a broad range > of transport time etc within your province. You can make extended > stops but you must control the firearms (i.e. can't leave them in the > vehicle while you sleep in the motel). I was primarily talking about > the requirements for keeping them locked during transport, I don't > have a problem with it. If the guy who got convicted of manslaughter > just recently had done so he wouldn't have "accidentally" had the gun > go off because it would have been unloaded and locked, the kids would > have been gone before he got the gun ready to shoot. > > Sensei Brent > > Craig Tataryn wrote: > >> Well, I am fine with the existing non-restricted storage laws, I >> believe them to be more than adequate. If someone broke into my >> house and they gave me a minute to go grab my gun, I still wouldn't >> have enough time to unlock them and load them :) It's the >> transportation law that I would have a problem with. For instance, >> with restricted firearms such as pistols, you literally cannot stop >> at McDonalds for a burger after hitting the shooting range. As >> well, you wouldn't be able to bring it out to your cottage for >> target practice either. I take my guns out to Kenora to a friends >> cabin to shoot skeet (and we make multiple stops going there and >> coming back), if long arms became restricted the only shooting you >> would be doing is at the range. >> >> Craig. >> >> Sensei Brent wrote: >>> Craig Tataryn wrote: >>> >>>> I would feel a whole lot better about the gun registry if they put >>>> a statement in the act that said: >>>> >>>> "All non-restricted firearms registered will remain as >>>> non-restrticted". I believe other countries such as UK/Austrailia >>>> imposed similar laws as the one we are implementing. Once their >>>> law abiding citizens registered their non-restricted firearms >>>> (shotguns, hunting rifles) they said "Oh, by the way we are now >>>> classifying guns those as restricted/phrohibited" >>>> >>>> Correct me if I am wrong, as I may not have all the details >>>> correct. >>>> >>>> Craig. >>> >>> When all are registered the only difference between restricted and >>> unrestricted is the transfer, storage and transportation >>> requirements. Does it really matter. I don't see any problem >>> requiring the more stringent storage/ transportation requirements >>> for long arms. In effect all firearms are to some degree restricted >>> as you must have a license and register them. >>> >>> >>> Prohibited is another matter, but they will not prohibit long-arms >>> because of the large rural base, particularly in northern Canada, >>> that legitimately needs them. The list has to remain open to some >>> degree to classify new or modified weapons. >>> >>> And by the way I am a shooter who fully supports the gun laws. >>> >>> Sensei Brent
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