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Article #4715Re: Gun Registry
From: Andrew
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 14:13
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 14:13
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"Calgary Rob" <calgaryrobnospam@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:M1NS9.243651$Qr.6989645@news3.calgary.shaw.ca... > "Andrew" <andrewnospam@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:NyAS9.239873$Qr.6883558@news3.calgary.shaw.ca... > > Why should my government know more about me than my family, friends, > church > > leader and doctor combined? The possibility of misuse of this information > is > > extremely dangerous. Lets face it. We can't even trust the government to > > register a gopher gun (or even a soldering gun) properly. Why would I > trust > > them with my DNA? > > And how is it dangerous? I have asked this repeatedly, and not a person has > explained how it is dangerous for the government to have a DNA database. > Here's why I think a DNA registry would be dangerous: 1.) To create a DNA registry the government would have to make substantial changes to our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The effect would be to reduce the freedoms of all Canadians to facilitate the safety of a relative few. 2.) A DNA registry could easily be copromised. Information is the registry could be used to harm the very people it is meant to help. Your ethnic background, health, predispostion to disease, sex, etc can all be determined using this registry. Currently the government has no access to this information (save for what they can record in a census). This information has no value to the government in its effort to help you live a safer life but it can be used to disqualify you. 3.) Look at the current situation with smokers being refused heart transplants etc. from doctors. It is not a big leap to use your DNA info to the same end. "No sir, we cannot give you that heart transplant you need to survive past the next six months. Our records show that your body is predisposed to cancer and our computer algorithm tells us you will likely die within 8 years. Using the current goverment cost/benefit guidelines this disqualifies you from any medical treatment costing more than $10 000." 4.) The possibility that in the future employers, insurance companies, and other groups can have access to this info is quite likely. They can already inquire about your police records, why not your DNA? Would it be fair to give the upper hand to insurance companies et al allowing them only to accept people based on this information? 5.) A DNA registry today may not be the same animal 10, 20 or 50 years from now. Our government is famous for asking for a dime and taking the whole damn piggy bank. The gun registry is an easy example. Once they have access to something and the basic laws have been written they obviously have no compulsion to follow their own rules. I often think of Hitler when people mention a DNA registry. The registry would have been the coupe de grace for Hitler's campaign to create the superior human race. This is a worst case scenario but outlines precisely how your DNA could be used against you by your own government. Remember that most of the people Hitler killed in his quest were citizens of his own country. Hitler used characteristics such as head size, eye and hair colour, sex, age, and general health to determine his ultimate human. If he had DNA to work with the results could have easily been much more horrific and been accomplished much easier. Think it will never happen? So did millions of Jews. Remember that Jews were only the first item on his list to get rid of. Similar actions continue to this day in many countries around the world. Terrorism is the threat du jour. Our government has a long history of losing, misusing or realeasing (by accident or not) sensitive information. Think of the consequences if terrorists gained access to a DNA registry. What could they accomplish? I don't know but it definately would not make our lives safer. Lastly. Since I have taken the time to outline why I feel a DNA registry is too risky for the perceived benefit, would you please tell me how many Canadian lives you think will be saved and at what cost. Think deep and consider the possible consequences then compare them to the number of unsolved crimes. Something to consider while you do the calculations; many (most?) crimes, especially violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders. Violent criminals are repeatedly released into the general public only to commit the same crimes time and time again. This would continue even with a DNA registry. Kill someone? You're caught the next day. You spend 7 years in jail. You are released and kill again. 15 years this time. The another murder, maybe 30 years in the tank this time. You'll get out just in time to kill a guest at your retirement party. Even though you were caught immediately after each crime you still killed many people. I propose that instead of a DNA registry, much stiffer mandatory sentences be applied, especially for violent crimes. I am quite confident that this would have a far more profound effect on our safety than any registry could hope to achieve. Remeber, they register pedophiles but they somehow commit the same crimes time and time again. Looking forward to your response, Andrew
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