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Article #4799Re: Besides their Oil, Why is the US so bent on destroying Iraq?
From: John Smith
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:14
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:14
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> 1. What happened to the pilot who dropped the bomb on the Canadian Soldiers? i don't know... though it does warrant investigation... > 2. With the embargo on Iraq, does the US still buy oil from them? yes, they definitely do! though instead of money, they pay for the oil with food: agricultural goods which the US had to get rid of one way or another... ;-) > 3. What has Iraq "supposed" to have done to Warrant some mass destruction of > their cities and murder of their civilians? they invaded kuwait... this is the main reason... other reasons which have been mentioned, but were ignored completely until after the gulf war, include using chemical warfare against the kurdish minority which live in the north during the war with Iran: the US labels this "using chemical weapons against it's own people" though i do agree this was a big atrocity, the US has not done anything to help the Kurdish minority in the North... the same sanction which affect bagdad effect the kurdish minority too.. a total of 1 million people have died due to the economic sanctions... not to mention the health problems which are and will be caused in the future by the use of DU, depleted uranium, weapons used in the gulf war... > 4. Where was the overwhelming proof that "Osama" was behind 9/11, Even if > it was Osama, why was Afghanistan Attacked? because "Osama" was living in Afganistan at the time and making threats on the lives of US citizens... he had already bombed 2 US embassies and killed a good number of people, something he admitted he did... the US ended up unleashing a good amount of cruise missles at Afganistan for retribution, but failed to kill Osama who was suppose to be the target of the attack... after 9.11, the taleban were unwilling to give him up to be tried by US courts... they they did agree to try him within afganistan if the US had an conclusive proof... the US refused the offer and attacked Afganistan... there have been over 3,000 confirmed civilian fatalities in Afganistan since the invasion began: a good number for revenge... don't you think? what i would like to see is a law suit filed on the behalf of all those innocent civilians killed in Afganistan against the american government... or may be china could file suit against the couple which were killed in Yugoslavia when america attacked the country...? > 5. Do you think that there is any connection with all the recent "corporate > accounting scams" to the 9/11 as well? i seriously doubt it... though the weak economy which would've occured anyway has helped expose the economic problems within these companies... > 6. Weren't Iraq, and Afghanistan allies of the states in the 80's? Yes, Iraq and Afganistan were both allies of the US in the 80s for two different reasons... Afganistan was partner in fighting the soviets which invaded and basically due to the CiA afganistan became the soviets personal vietnam... president regan actually applauded the efforts of the "mujadeen" in the fighting against the soviets... during this time the CiA also trained a contact operative in Afganistan named Osama bin Laden... Osama helped the CiA in distributing goods to the "mudjadeen"... after the war was won these gorillas were fuedalistic in mentality and basically started fighting against each other for the control of the country... excessive lawlessness broke out all over the country... the CiA and the government of Pakistan then helped train the Taleban to finally end this fuedalistic mess and bring relative peace to the country: all while protecting the interests in the region of both of these countries... the plan failed because the Taleban were not easily manuverable by either government... the started practicing a very old version, or as they call it "pure", version of islam and their political policies were affected by this practise... slowly they became more and more anti-social, or as they called it "anti-western"... they started training militants to fight in Chechnya and Kashmir to supposedly defend thier people, the Muslims, against countries which threatened them... they also sheltered militants such as "Osama"... the argument that proceeded blamed them for training some of the militants which ended up caused 9.11... Iraq was another great ally of the US and this was mainly because it was a foe of Iran... though the underlying fact was the US was playing each country against the the other and providing weapons to both of them to kill each other: i.e. the Iran Contra Affair... When Saddam deicided to invade Kuwait, he thought that the US was an ally and would not make good on its threat to attack Iraq for invading Kuwait... Iraq was wrong... Soon after Kuwait was invaded the US was sucessful in passing a resolution against iraq in the UN... in the short war that followed Iraq lost extremely quickly... the thing to note though is saddam did not use any chemical or biological warfare weapons in the gulf war though he had them, due to the fear of getting nuked by israel or the US... Today, over 90% of the oil companies that operate in Kuwait are property of the US... Saudi Arabia has paid millions in compensation for protection against Iraq... Much in terms of chemical and biological weapons was destroyed by UN inspectors when they came to iraq to disarm it... over the next 8 years the powers, mainly britian and the us, refused to accept that iraq had destroyed all of their supply: a claim which is probably true... saddam decided that they would never let his country go free no matter how much stuff he destroyed... so he ended the inspections... operation desert fox followed and ended which was meant to slow down the development of nuclear weapons... now a policy of containment was used to keep iraq in check... since 9.11 the attitude has changed and now they have just decided to get rid of saddam... and i think in the war which is soon to follow, less than 6 months... they will... the only piece of good news is that the US has decided to replace saddam's government with democratic government... how democratic that government will be, we'll wait and see.. the underlying reason for containing saddam seems to be two-fold... first to protect the american companies which have rights to use the oil reserves in the middle east and second to protect israel from saddam, who could possibly develop and arsenal to put israel under actual threat... i can back up most of what i said with credible proof if you want...just tell me what you need proved... -jS -- "Sometimes I sits and thinks and sometimes I just sits." - Satchel Paige
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