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"Mr Frederick" <fpeditor1@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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>> "Mr Frederick" <fpeditor1@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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>>>> "Glen" <ghallick@mts.net> wrote in message 
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>>>>> On May 4, 5:53 pm, "Mr Frederick" <fpedit...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> God, people believe fucking ignorant crap.  If you still drive, you 
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> use the gas, and buying it the day before or the day after means the 
>>>>>> dollars
>>>>>> are just shuffled from one day to the other.  Christ this is 
>>>>>> pre-school
>>>>>> economics!   If people don't park the cars for one extra day, not 
>>>>>> buying the
>>>>>> gas on a particular day doesn't make any difference, except 
>>>>>> attendants get
>>>>>> to play cards for a day.  Of course, if enough people fall for this 
>>>>>> shit,
>>>>>> the rest of us will get quick service at the pumps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to think like that too Mr. Fred, but then I realized the level
>>>>> of ignorance it entails. A day not to buy gasoline is really about
>>>>> showing the gas companies that consumers can organize themselves. Yes
>>>>> people will still buy gas and not buying it on a specific day will
>>>>> only shift to another. But that it the point. The real point is a
>>>>> little demonstration of consumer influence on the marketplace. If you
>>>>> desire to remain in the weak and helpless camp then that's your
>>>>> choice. I for one won't buy gas on May 15.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If consumers really want to make an impact, then target one major 
>>>> gasoline retailer for boycott.  Instead of one day (which is nothing 
>>>> more then symbolic), everyone stop buying from Esso.  It wouldn't take 
>>>> long for Esso to drop it's price to attract customers back again. 
>>>> Rotating a boycott from major to major could ensure the prices stay 
>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought
>>>>
>>>> PV
>>> Boycotting one increases the demand at the others.  If you are Shell and 
>>> Petro Canada, and your demand outstrips your supply because of a zillion 
>>> litres not sold at Esso, you are RAISING your prices.  Sorry but it is 
>>> unethical to make people believe we can have that kind of impact on 
>>> multi-national, billion dollar companies.  We have tied our price to the 
>>> world market.  The US is a net importer and the lagest per-capita 
>>> consumer of energy in the world.  Unles the consumers of North America 
>>> use less fuel, the price is the price is the price.  The consumer is 
>>> DEMANDING, Big Oil is SUPPLYING.
>>
>> But if you leave Esso swinging in the breeze with no retail sales, i.e. 
>> supply but no demand, then they are forced to try to lure the consumer 
>> back again.
>>
>> It was only a thought, but we can impact multi-billion dollar enterprises 
>> but only through a unified front, however a one day boycott would have 
>> absolutely no impact.
>>
>> PV
> You really don't think Esso branded outlets are the only places selling 
> gas from Esso, do you?  Even if they closed all their stations, we would 
> be buying Esso fuel from everybody else.


Of course not, which is why I suggest supporting the other majors while 
ignoring Esso, at least patronize those that have their own refineries.  And 
I also realize that they have many other sources of revenue such as jet 
fuel, frac fluid, asphalt etc.

Still it's a better idea then boycotting everyone for one day.

PV