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On 15 Jan 2003 01:02:44 -0000, Wally Cleaver
<wallace_cleaver@mayfield.net> wrote:


WAS THE US$50,000 USED TO PAY FOR THE APARTMENT IN NANAIMO,
owned as a rental property by McVay, and allegedly used by
his business, LANCE'S ESCORTS, by homosexuals?


>On 14 Jan 2003 00:23:26 GMT, in ab.general wallace_cleaver@mayfield.net (Wally Cleaver) wrote:
>
>>Did Ken McVay pay tax on those $50,000+ donations he denies receiving?
>>I bet the penalties and interest would be mountainous!
>
>>NIZKOR.ORG web site operator, Ken McVay's, current and long running denial
>>quoted and all of his dishonesty exposed;
>
>>"The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
>>United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any
>>money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" AND you are also
>>on record as stating: "...The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid
>>me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no connection in San Antonio,
>>and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it" on June 2, 2000.
>>http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>>(This is kind of fun. You keep making an ass of yourself, and I'll keep
>>laughing at you.)"
>> -Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
>> -Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>> -From: kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay)
>> -Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.131501115@news.nnrp.ca>
>> -Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT
>
>>Now addressed to NIZKOR operator Ken McVay:
>
>>You can laugh all you want and deny all you want but your previous postings
>>and what your allies have posted prove what you claim above to be bold faced
>>lies. Just what did you do with that $50,000 and all of the other donations
>>you have received from the San Antonio Area Foundation; whom you claimed as
>>a source of your financing and as a source of funding?
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>>Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
>>Date: 1996/09/05
>>Message-ID: <50n608$9ds@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>>x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
>>organization: The Nizkor Project
>
>>[...]
>
>>In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
>
>>	"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
>
>>and should be mailed to:
>
>>	San Antonio Area Foundation
>>	Nizkor Fund
>>	P.O. Box 120366
>>	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
>
>>The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
>>improvements in service.
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>You claimed at the top of this post: "The San Antonio Area Foundation has
>>never paid me, or Nizkor, and neither myself nor Nizkor has any connection
>>with the San Antonio Area Foundation" but your post above contradicts your
>>claim with your very own words of: "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund..
>>The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
>>improvements in service."
>
>>If you never received any money from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
>>Fund then why did you give thanks?
>
>>How about these posts which prove you solicited funds through the San
>>Antonio Area Foundation? Are you still claiming: "Neither The Nizkor
>>Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio
>>Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" despite all the time you solicited American
>>donations through them?
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>From: jamie@voyager.net (Jamie McCarthy)
>>Subject: Re: the new, revised Nizkor
>>Date: 1996/12/03
>>Message-ID: <jamie-0312962106210001@clmx43.dial.voyager.net>
>>references: <3298694d.77290350@news.gte.net>
>>organization: Voyager Information Networks, Inc.
>>newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>
>>Freddie@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
>
>>>         Take a look at the nizkor site now.
>
>>>         Gone are the references to the synagogue [...]
>
>>This is news?  It's been that way since September;  at that time, the
>>Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society and the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation were both established.
>
>>That information again, for anyone who missed it:
>
>>                        NIZKOR FUNDING:
>>                  CANADA & THE UNITED STATES
>
>>[...]
>
>>                      THE UNITED STATES
>
>>In the United States, donations for the project's efforts should be
>>made payable to:
>
>>        San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>
>>and should be mailed to:
>
>>        San Antonio Area Foundation
>>        Nizkor Fund
>>        P.O. Box 120366
>>        San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
>
>>American donors may deduct contributions as provided in section 170 of
>>the Internal Revenue Code. Bequests, legacies, devises, transfers, or
>>gifts are deductible for federal, estate, and gift tax purposes if
>>they meet the applicable provisions of Code sections 2055, 2106 and
>>2522.
>
>>We very much appreciate your donations, which assist in the
>>development and enhancement of The Nizkor Project website. Thank You.
>>--
>> Jamie McCarthy          http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
>> jamie@voyager.net        Co-Webmaster of http://www.nizkor.org/
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>Did your co-webmaster, Jamie McCarthy, lie about the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation - Nizkor Fund existing? Does not the above prove that your
>>Nizkor Project is tied to the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund?
>
>>What have you done with all the donations you are now denying ever
>>receiving? You aren't guilty of tax evasion are you? It would be easy
>>for a Canadian citizen to sneak money from America and not report any
>>of it on his tax returns I'd imagine.
>
>>Here you are proclaiming the San Antonio Area Foundation handles your
>>American donations (which you claim now you never received);
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>From: Ken McVay (kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org)
>>Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1@eclipse.txdirect.net>
>>Date: 1997/06/05
>
>>In article <5n400d$sg4@crack.usaor.net>,  ipm@usaor.net (William "Ian
>>McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>
>>>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
>
>>The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
>>Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
>>has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>Here you are again confirming the San Antonio Area Foundation handles your
>>American donations;
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>From: Ken McVay (kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org)
>>Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1@eclipse.txdirect.net>
>>Date: 1997/05/22
>
>>In article <5m11au$4gd@access1.digex.net>,  mstein@access.digex.net wrote:
>
>>>    As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>>>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>>>an independent organization.  In the United States, it is channeled
>>>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>>>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
>
>>Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
>>_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
>>Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
>>financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
>>receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
>>required.
>
>>In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
>>Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>Are you still going to insist you never "received any money from the
>>"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" in all that time?
>
>>If you never received any money from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
>>Fund then why did you list them as a source of your financing as you claimed
>>here?
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>>Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
>>Date: 1996/06/15
>>Message-ID: <4pvbkg$auc@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>
>>In article <31c2fa3a.16855786@news.annap.infi.net>,
>>hk@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote, in response to my
>>suggestion that he actually do some research:
>
>>>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perhaps can
>>>talk.
>
>>Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
>>by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
>>work. In Canada, they make their cheques payable to
>
>>          Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project
>
>>and mail them to:
>
>>          Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project
>>          1461 Blanshard St.
>>          Victoria, BC
>>          V8W 2J3
>
>>In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
>
>>	SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
>
>>and mail them to:
>
>>	San Antonio Area Foundation
>>	Nizkor Fund
>>	P.O. Box 120366
>>	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
>
>>Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
>>open, public response will satisfy your query.
>
>>By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
>>and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
>>difference it makes who finances my work... you are still
>>slandering Germans, and the German military, and I fail to see
>>how my financing changes that.
>
>>The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
>>    [Ftp] http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?
>>    [Europe] ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/
>>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/ (Under construction - permanently!)......unlearn
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>If you never received any money from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
>>Fund then why did you claim they were a source of financing? Why are you
>>changing your tune? Have you reported those American donations on your
>>Canadian tax return over all these years? Hmmmh?
>
>>Did Laura Finsten lie about you getting funding from the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation - Nizkor Fund as shown here?
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>From: Laura Finsten <finsten@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
>>Subject: Re: Yet another Nazional Appliance Illiteracy Alert!
>>Date: 1997/06/08
>>Message-ID:
>><Pine.SOL.3.96.970608110523.5876A-100000@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
>
>>On Sat, 7 Jun 1997, Michael wrote:
>
>>> All your b s aside above (as though Bnai Brith only took checks and
>>> gave them to Nizkor; all innocent and stuff. Ask any professional who
>>> deals with not-for-profits about the ease of shuffling funds.)
>
>>I have no idea how common such "shuffling [of] funds" may be.  But the key
>>issue here is whether you have any evidence at all to support your much
>>repeatedly but utterly empty claim that this is the case with the
>>arrangement between Nizkor and B'nai Brith?  I don't see any of you trying
>>to smear the San Antonio Area Foundation which, ironically, has probably
>>provided more funding for the project since it has a far larger pool of
>>donors to draw upon....
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>Laura Finsten stated: "the San Antonio Area Foundation which, ironically,
>>has probably provided more funding for the project since it has a far
>>larger pool of donors to draw upon" concerning your Nizkor Project but
>>you still claim: "The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever
>>within the United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever
>>received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." The San
>>Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me, or Nizkor, and neither myself
>>nor Nizkor has any connection with the San Antonio Area Foundation."
>
>>Do not forget what the San Antonio Area Foundation itself shows about funding
>>the Nizkor Fund in the Year 2000 Report.
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
>>[Link active for downloading and for verification December 19, 2002.
>>(I have already downloaded and archived the PDF in case it becomes
>>unavailable for some reason.)]
>
>>Our mission: Helping donors achieve their charitable goals
>>Annual Report 2000
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>San Antonio Area Foundation
>>Growing to Give, Giving to Grow
>
>>Page 3
>>Fund Types
>>The San Antonio Area Foundation is dedicated to improving the quality
>>of life in our community through funding that impacts vital nonprofit
>>organizations so they can help people in time of need.
>
>>Discretionary Funds
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>These funds enable the Area Foundation to respond
>>flexibly to changing community needs and emergencies.
>>Decisions on how to most appropriately use these
>>funds are left to the discretion of the Area Foundation�s
>>Advisory Committees and Board of Directors. Any size
>>gift may be given as a discretionary gift.
>>You�ll find many reasonable options for creating your
>>own fund in the paragraphs that follow. However,
>>if you wish to contribute to the work of the Area
>>Foundation and do not see an option that suits your
>>plan for giving, we invite you to contribute to an
>>existing discretionary fund. One of the many advantages
>>of this type of giving is that there is no minimum
>>contribution � you may give as little or as much as
>>you wish, as often as you wish.
>
>>[...]
>
>>Unrestricted Net Assets
>>AS OF DECEMBER 31 , 2000
>>Discretionary (unrestricted) 20 %
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Donor Advised Funds 36 %
>>Designated Funds 4 %
>>Field of Interest Funds 23 %
>>Scholarship Funds 17 %
>
>>Page 4
>>Discretionary Funds
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Alamo Fund
>>Phoebe P. and John H. Foster Memorial Fund
>>Nat and Mannie Goldsmith Memorial Trust
>>Ruth Lang Charitable Fund
>
>>[...]
>
>>Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
>>Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
>>Nizkor Fund
>>^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Mary Kay Owens Memorial Fund
>>Gaynelle and Gene Rankin Endowment Trust
>
>>[...]
>>
>>S A N   A N T O N I O   A R E A   F O U N D A T I O N
>>  Post Office Box 120366  I San Antonio, Texas 78212
>>          210-225-2243  I 210-225-1980 Fax
>>                 w w w. s a a f d n . o r g
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>How about what a local San Antonio news paper published about the
>>San Antonio Area Foundation handing you a $50,000 check? Are they
>>lying too or does the actual evidence prove you are a tax cheater?
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>San Antonio Express-News
>>August 3, 1996
>>Page 10B
>
>>"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
>>By Thomas Edwards
>>Express-News Staff Writer
>
>>"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
>>solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
>>the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
>>Nazi Germany.
>
>>Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
>>the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
>>Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
>>year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.
>
>>The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's
>>bloody pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of
>>"deniers" (as McVay calls them) -- modern-day neo-Nazis and
>>extremists who use their own web sites to deny that the
>>extermination of 12 million Jews and others ever took place
>>during World War II.
>
>>"They (deniers) think the Holocaust is a Jewish propaganda thing,"
>>said McVay this week during a visit to the Jewish Federation of
>>San Antonio.  "I have come to see Holocaust denial as a function
>>of racism."
>
>>McVay and a group of Holocaust experts plan a panel discussion at
>>7 p.m. Sunday on "Fighting Hate on the Internet" at the
>>federation office, 8434 Ahern Drive behind North Star Mall.
>
>>The grant will allow McVay and his associates to unveil two new,
>>extremely fast computers at an undisclosed location in San
>>Antonio -- undisclosed because of threats from extremists, he
>>said.
>
>>These computers will be linked to others in Germany and Canada to
>>provide easily accessible information about the Holocaust and
>>hate groups.
>
>>The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
>>also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.
>
>>Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which
>>will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi
>>statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military
>>documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and
>>material from the National Archives in Washington.
>
>>Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident
>>Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the
>>United States.  Mazal also has one of the world's largest private
>>collections of Holocaust material.
>
>>While the task sounds monumental and is expected to take years to
>>complete, McVay is not daunted.
>
>>"Every item that appears on the net takes away another lie"
>>promoted by neo-Nazis, he said.
>
>>The web address for the Nizkor Project is www.nizkor.org.
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>The article above can be confirmed at: http://archives1.newsbank.com/
>>Now click San Antonio-Express News Archives or:
>>http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
>>You will be taken to a page with a very long URL and this is what
>>I just got:
>>http://archives9.newsbank.com/cgi-bin/user/home.pl/SAEC?nb_id=N61V4EQBZ2V0dGltZW9mZGF5OjE6MTQ6NjQuMTUyLjI0NS4xNjk
>>Once there click on the link contained within this passage:
>>A <search> in S.A. NewsArchives produces a list of story summaries
>>that include the headline, date, author, and first few sentences of
>>articles containing your search terms. The headline list is free. You
>>will be prompted to purchase a subscription to SA NewsArchives (if you
>>don't already have one) to view the full text of articles.
>
>>You will be taken to another page with the search engine and that
>>page was linked by this link:
>>http://archives9.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p_theme=SAEC&p_product=SAEC
>
>>Once there set the search engine for:
>>Search for: Nizkor
>>Limit Search by Date: All documents
>
>>If you all do the above you should get this result:
>
>>1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)
>
>>  August 3, 1996   San Antonio Express-News
>>  Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
>
>>Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
>
>>"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn
>>promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet
>>so that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now
>>his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the
>>philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an
>>international computer web site directed by the 55-year-old McVay from
>>his home in Vancouver Island, Canada. The Nizkor project
>
>>[View the full-text article, 526 words]
>
>><end/search>
>
>>Notice to lurkers: You will have to order a subscription to be able
>>to retrieve the whole article but what the excerpts shows proves McVay
>>lies when he claims: "The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort
>>whatsoever within the United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken
>>McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation
>>- Nizkor Fund." The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me, or
>>Nizkor, and neither myself nor Nizkor has any connection with the San
>>Antonio Area Foundation."
>
>>IOW everyone is a liar but Ken McVay!!
>
>>The term AUDIT keeps popping up in my mind!
>
>>BTW you denied being linked to two organizations but the evidence proves
>>otherwise. You claimed in this document from your web site;
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>>No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
>>Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
>>in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
>>an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
>>Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
>>paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge. They have, however,
>>invested the donation as they were directed and legally bound to do.
>
>>The computers are in use to this day, confronting and refuting
>>Holocaust denial, but I have nothing to do with their operation,
>>maintanence or development.
>
>>You can verify their existence by visiting
>>http://www.holocaust-history.org and http://thhp.org.
>
>>I have no association with either organization, and never have...
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>You lied when you stated concerning "holocaust-history.org" and
>>"thhp.org" when you stated: "I have no association with either
>>organization, and never have.." (Don't forget you have been caught
>>lying about never getting any money from the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation as was proven beyond any doubt higher up in this very
>>post).
>
>>http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
>>(Link active January 2, 2003)
>>House of the Wannsee Conference
>>Memorial and Educational Site
>>The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
>>c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216
>>http://www.mazal.org
>
>>You also posted this;
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>>Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
>>Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1@news.tht.net>
>
>>Whois: mazal.org
>>Server: -automatic-
>
>>Registrant:
>>San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
>>   600 Sandau Suite 400
>>   San Antonio, TX 78216 US
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>You verified the WhoIs return as being authentic yet you stated:
>>"What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor
>>Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the
>>"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund."
>
>>I have shown above that you are connected to the "San Antonio Area
>>Foundation - Nizkor Fund" with your own writings.
>
>>Compare the above info to the following which you claim:
>>"I have no association with either organization, and
>>never have" referring to "holocaust-history.org" and
>>"thhp.org".
>
>>Registrant:
>>The Holocaust History Project (HOLOCAUST-HISTORY-DOM)
>>600 Sandau Suite 400
>>San Antonio, TX 78216 US
>
>>Domain Name: HOLOCAUST-HISTORY.ORG
>
>>Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
>>Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hmazal@TXDIRECT.NET
>>The Mazal Library
>>600 Sandau, Suite 400
>>San Antonio, TX 78216 US
>>210-377-2742
>
>>Record expires on 18-Sep-2009.
>>Record created on 17-Sep-1997.
>>Database last updated on 2-Jan-2003 05:32:43 EST.
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>http://www.holocaust-history.org/donations/
>>Ralf P. Loserth, Treasurer
>>The Holocaust History Project, Inc.
>>600 Sandau Road
>>Suite 400
>>San Antonio, Texas 78216
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>THHP.ORG
>
>>Domain Name: THHP.ORG
>
>>Created on..............: Fri, Mar 17, 2000
>>Expires on..............: Mon, Mar 17, 2003
>>Record last updated on..: Wed, Dec 18, 2002
>
>>Organization:
>>Jamie McCarthy
>>Jamie McCarthy
>>P.O. Box 20394
>>Kalamazoo, MI 49019 US
>>Phone: 616-375-7528
>>Email: jamie@mccarthy.org
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>Jamie McCarthy was your co-webmaster (shown higher up in this post)
>>at one time yet you claim to have never been associated with either
>>org. The facts prove otherwise. You have been associated with the
>>people behind those organizations and those organizations are those
>>people such as your NIZKOR.ORG is you.
>
>>I.E.
>
>>Registrant:
>>The Nizkor Project
>>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>>Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
>
>>Domain: NIZKOR.ORG
>>Registrar: DomainBank.com
>
>>Administrative Contact:
>>McVay, Kenneth KMCVAY@VERITAS.NIZKOR.ORG
>>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>>Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
>>(PHONE) 416-966-0461
>
>>Technical Contact:
>>McVay, Kenneth kmcvay@nizkor.org
>>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>>Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
>>(PHONE) 416-966-0461
>
>>Record created on 1996-07-18
>>Record expires on 2004-07-17
>>Database last updated Fri Jan 03 12:05:42 EST 2003
>
>><end>
>
>>Do not forget these posts and archives which link you to the
>>San Antonio Area Foundation:
>
>>From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power,alt.flame.jews
>>Subject: Re: Lookie lookie what we got here.
>>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:55:02 +0000 (UTC)
>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>Message-ID: <9lhffm$25ck$1@news.tht.net>
>
>>There is no connection between Nizkor and the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation, period. Whatever "Nizkor Fund" exists, if indeed one does,
>>has nothing whatsoever to do with the Nizkor Project or with me.
>
>>If you have evidence that "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>c/o BASIC" has anything whatsoever to do with either The Nizkor
>>Project or Ken McVay, by all means present it.
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>As for your challenge: "If you have evidence that "San Antonio Area
>>Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC" has anything whatsoever to do with
>>either The Nizkor Project or Ken McVay, by all means present it."
>
>>I PRESENT:
>
>><start/quote>
>
>>Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer
>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
>>[UseNet headers trimmed]
>
>>From: kmcvay@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
>>Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
>>Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
>>Message-ID: <4vikjj%2446u@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>
>>"Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the
>>San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation. If the
>>recording is determined to be fraudulent by reasonable scientific standards,
>>the trust funds will be returned to Mr. Giwer immediately, and the Nizkor
>>Project will immediately tender reasonable interest on the full amount to
>>Mr. Giwer..."
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>Looks like you are linked to that San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund
>>to me or else why would you be mentioning Matt Giwer making a donation?
>
>>One of your allies, Michael Ragland, posted this as late as June 27, 2002:
>
>>From: ragland37@webtv.net (Michael Ragland)
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>Subject: Re: Some Holes, Some Holocaust (Danny Keren)
>>Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:19:26 -0400 (EDT)
>>Message-ID: <14152-3D1BD5BE-337@storefull-2253.public.lawson.webtv.net>
>>References: <3D1BC57C.7000209@sympatico.ca>
>
>>Veri Sign Whois
>>http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois
>
>>Enter mazal.org and read results
>
>>You are Here:WHOIS -> Search Results
>>Search Results
>
>>Registrant:
>>San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
>>600 Sandau Suite 400
>>San Antonio, TX 78216 US
>>Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
>>Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
>>Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hmazal@TXDIRECT.NET
>
>>The Mazal Library 600 Sandau, Suite 400 San Antonio, TX 78216  US
>>210-377-2742
>>Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
>>Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
>>Database last updated on 27-Jun-2002 22:55:14 EDT.
>
>><end/quote>
>
>>Still want to stick with your lie?
>
>>The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
>>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>>Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
>>1-250-616-9431
>>1-416-966-0461
>
>>also
>
>>http://webpositiongold.kenmcvay.com/contact-webpositiongold.htm
>>McVay Consulting Group
>>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>>Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
>>Canonical name: kenmcvay.com
>>Addresses: 209.151.84.95
>>Residential address:
>>995 Bowen Road, Apt. 3108
>>Nanaimo, British Columbia V9R 2A4
>>1-250-616-9431
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