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Re: Internet Provider cancels account- is it legal? Can you be next?

#5723
From: Zippybear
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:44
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Some ISPs are more forgiving than others.  Go with one more likely to put up
with your tendancies to harass and aggrevate people online.

ZB


"�-#� tayl�rchuk ��|I" <db2639@netzero.com> wrote in message
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> Its a sad day in Canada when we have Internet providers can cancel a
> persons account when they are not in violation of any of th providers
> AUP (acceptable usage policies) and are  a paid up customer.
>
> Within a few years when a few more of these providers go broke, we
> will have one or two large American providers like AOL owning all of
> our connections.
>
> They may still have the right to simply choose not to provide
> essential telephone or eventually internet connections to Canadian
> citizens.
>
> There is definately something wrong with a system which can terminate
> the account of a law abiding citizen who does not violate the AUP of a
> provider..but a convicted multi murderer like Fabricant  was able to
> continue posting messages on a newsgroup, apparently from within high
> security Federal Prison.
>
> Give that a few thoughts.
>
>
>
>
> "cd69" <cd69@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:<A_vC9.42152$ka.1194845@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>...
> > Thank God!!!Shaw finally did the right thing!Just too bad it took so
> > long!Don't let the door hit you on your way out.And in case you
wonder,no
> > you won't be missed!I'm sending a thank you note to Shaw right
> > away.Yahoo!Party time!
> > "�-#� tayl�rchuk ��|I" <db2639@netzero.com> wrote in message
> > news:66ae96c0.0211191010.5f8e4db@posting.google.com...
> > > re: Shaw internet cancels account without violation of AUP
> > >
> > > Yes we should all be very worried about the actions that Shaw has
> > > taken.
> > >
> > > They chose to cancel my account despite the facts that:
> > >
> > > 1. I did not violate their AUP
> > > 2. I am a paid up customer
> > >
> > > They sent a cancelation email and failed to identify ANY violations of
> > > their AUP but simply said..
> > >
> > > "it is no longer economically feasible for us to continue to provide
> > > you with Internet services:.
> > >
> > > They did NOT outline even a single violation of their AUP in this
> > > letter because there weren't any.
> > >
> > > They just had complaints from people who disagreed with what I said.
> > >
> > > This is how Internet providers think that they can operate.
> > >
> > > If they or their customers simply don't like what you say, they can
> > > cancel your account.
> > >
> > > No warnings.
> > >
> > >
> > > Their last letter to me about 5 months ago said that they would have
> > > to keep one of three complaints on record but that I had two
> > > remaining.
> > >
> > > The facts.
> > > 1. They wrongly suspended my account for 7 days until they realized
> > > that they had blamed me for a post that was created from someone else!
> > > No appologies, no refund of monies lost for that period.
> > >
> > > 2. they then tried to say that I made a threat when I said in a post
> > > that a person should be "spanked off the newsgroup". Spank? Thats a
> > > threat? Since when.
> > >
> > > 3. Shaw has allowed other users to blatantly violate their posted AUP
> > > over and over with threats, profanity and pornographic stories but
> > > these users have never had their accounts cancelled or even suspended.
> > >
> > > So everyone should be worried that an Internet provider can jackboot
> > > users at their own discretion.
> > >
> > > They can be the censors and ensure that nobody ever says something
> > > that they or their customers disagree with.
> > >
> > > I want anyone with information or assistance in this matter to email
> > > me
> > >
> > > donbayomi@hotmail.com
> > >
> > > Winnipeg.
> > >
> > > The CRTC does not actively regulate the Internet at all.
> > >
> > > So lets get a decision..either they don't regulate anything or they
> > > do.
> > >
> > > I get my account cancelled simply because they don't feel like
> > > addressing the problems of those who violate their own AUP?
> > >
> > > I dont' think so.
> > >
> > > I have asked for my account back out of the mere principle of it.
> > >
> > > You don't have to agree with something that I or others say...but do
> > > you want to live in a country and have internet providers who can just
> > > simply accept some complaints from people who disagree with you and
> > > then take away your account?
> > >
> > > No.
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