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Article #5748Re: Internet Provider cancels account- is it legal? Can you be next?
From: Walter Roberson
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:24
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:24
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In article <4pUC9.14742$bh1.1893189@news1.telusplanet.net>, Sharx. <sharx35@nospam.ca> wrote: :ISP's should be considered utilities.....EPCOR doesn't care what I do with :my power or water.....as long as I pay the bill and don't damage their :infrastructure. EPCOR likely *does* care about what you do with your power and water: you probably just never set about exploring all the different ways that you could be a public nuisance by using the service EPCOR provides. If you were, for example, to deliberately start flooding the street to annoy your neighbours, then you shouldn't be surprised if EPCOR turned off your supply. There are many ways to use internet connections to annoy people. Spam people. Portscan them. Troll. Top-post. There are also an amazing number of people who do these kinds of things, to be annoying, or because they feel they have a "right" to do so, or on the principle that anything that isn't clearly illegal is beyond criticism. You referenced "their infrastructure", which puts the emphasis on the scope of "their". If you were to offer a professional spammer a contract that said "We won't kick you off as long as you don't spam any of OUR users", then the spammer would quickly agree: spammers love safe-havens from which they can address the entire rest of the world. And that's a very serious problem: the -reach- of the Internet is global, so if you utility-ize with protections based upon how your behaviour affects the locals, then you've given free reign to ravage and plunder everyone else. -- "Meme" is self-referential; memes exist if and only if the "meme" meme exists. "Meme" is thus logically a meta-meme; but until the existance of meta-memes is more widely recognized, "meta-meme" is not a meme. -- A Child's Garden Of Memes
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f504b,cde0d959ae54f524 X-Google-Attributes: gidf504b,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,cde0d959ae54f524 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-Thread: 10d2a3,cde0d959ae54f524 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d2a3,public X-Google-Thread: 108c64,cde0d959ae54f524 X-Google-Attributes: gid108c64,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,cde0d959ae54f524 X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-11-20 20:24:34 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!torn!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!roberson From: roberson@ibd.nrc.ca (Walter Roberson) Newsgroups: wpg.general,can.general,tor.general,can.legal,edm.general Subject: Re: Internet Provider cancels account- is it legal? Can you be next? Date: 21 Nov 2002 04:24:34 GMT Organization: National Research Council Canada Lines: 34 Message-ID: <arhn62$5h2$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <66ae96c0.0211191010.5f8e4db@posting.google.com> <D3UC9.14732$bh1.1891708@news1.telusplanet.net> <TmUC9.849481$v53.31695960@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <4pUC9.14742$bh1.1893189@news1.telusplanet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: zeno.ibd.nrc.ca X-Trace: canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca 1037852674 5666 192.70.172.132 (21 Nov 2002 04:24:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: Postmaster@cc.umanitoba.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Nov 2002 04:24:34 GMT