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Re: Internet Provider cancels account- is it legal? Can you be next?

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From: Walter Roberson
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:24
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In article <4pUC9.14742$bh1.1893189@news1.telusplanet.net>,
Sharx. <sharx35@nospam.ca> wrote:
:ISP's should be considered utilities.....EPCOR doesn't care what I do with
:my power or water.....as long as I pay the bill and don't damage their
:infrastructure.

EPCOR likely *does* care about what you do with your power and
water: you probably just never set about exploring all the
different ways that you could be a public nuisance by using 
the service EPCOR provides. If you were, for example, to deliberately
start flooding the street to annoy your neighbours, then you
shouldn't be surprised if EPCOR turned off your supply.

There are many ways to use internet connections to annoy people.
Spam people. Portscan them. Troll. Top-post. There are also an
amazing number of people who do these kinds of things, 
to be annoying, or because they feel they have a "right" to do so,
or on the principle that anything that isn't clearly illegal is
beyond criticism.

You referenced "their infrastructure", which puts the emphasis on the
scope of "their".  If you were to offer a professional spammer a
contract that said "We won't kick you off as long as you don't spam any
of OUR users", then the spammer would quickly agree: spammers love
safe-havens from which they can address the entire rest of the world.
And that's a very serious problem: the -reach- of the Internet is global,
so if you utility-ize with protections based upon how your behaviour 
affects the locals, then you've given free reign to ravage and
plunder everyone else.
--
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exists. "Meme" is thus logically a meta-meme; but until the existance
of meta-memes is more widely recognized, "meta-meme" is not a meme.
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From: roberson@ibd.nrc.ca (Walter Roberson)
Newsgroups: wpg.general,can.general,tor.general,can.legal,edm.general
Subject: Re: Internet Provider cancels account-  is it legal? Can you be next?
Date: 21 Nov 2002 04:24:34 GMT
Organization: National Research Council Canada
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