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Article #5750Re: Internet Provider cancels account- is it legal? Can you be next?
From: Sharx.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:31
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:31
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"Walter Roberson" <roberson@ibd.nrc.ca> wrote in message news:arhn62$5h2$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca... > In article <4pUC9.14742$bh1.1893189@news1.telusplanet.net>, > Sharx. <sharx35@nospam.ca> wrote: > :ISP's should be considered utilities.....EPCOR doesn't care what I do with > :my power or water.....as long as I pay the bill and don't damage their > :infrastructure. > > EPCOR likely *does* care about what you do with your power and > water: you probably just never set about exploring all the > different ways that you could be a public nuisance by using > the service EPCOR provides. If you were, for example, to deliberately > start flooding the street to annoy your neighbours, then you > shouldn't be surprised if EPCOR turned off your supply. Nope, EPCOR wouldn't care. However the City Police and/or Bylaw Enforcement officials WOULD care. I'd be ticketed and/our summonsed to court. But my water supply would be untouched...as long as I paid for all that water. Same thing if I used electricity to do nasty things to people touching my metal gates. City Police would be interested but EPCOR? Not. > > There are many ways to use internet connections to annoy people. > Spam people. Portscan them. Troll. Top-post. There are also an > amazing number of people who do these kinds of things, > to be annoying, or because they feel they have a "right" to do so, > or on the principle that anything that isn't clearly illegal is > beyond criticism. > > You referenced "their infrastructure", which puts the emphasis on the > scope of "their". If you were to offer a professional spammer a > contract that said "We won't kick you off as long as you don't spam any > of OUR users", then the spammer would quickly agree: spammers love > safe-havens from which they can address the entire rest of the world. > And that's a very serious problem: the -reach- of the Internet is global, > so if you utility-ize with protections based upon how your behaviour > affects the locals, then you've given free reign to ravage and > plunder everyone else. > -- > "Meme" is self-referential; memes exist if and only if the "meme" meme > exists. "Meme" is thus logically a meta-meme; but until the existance > of meta-memes is more widely recognized, "meta-meme" is not a meme. > -- A Child's Garden Of Memes
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