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Article #5789Re: Internet Provider cancels account- is it legal? Can you be next?
From: Sharx.
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:24
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:24
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"Raymond J. Henry" <rayhenry@TROLLmts.net> wrote in message news:kzvC9.14444$b5.70510@news1.mts.net... > Guess what? There is no law to make them provide you with service. They have > the right to decide that due to the increased man-hours you create by your > antagonistic posting methods on newsgroups that it's not feasible to provide > you with service at the specified costs. This is 100% legitimate. > > There are other ISP's that can provide you with service, so you wouldn't > even have a case if you could prove that lack of Internet connectivity > caused you hardship. Yeah, right. There is an extremely limited number of suppliers of HIGH SPEED access in any given Canadian city. Screw dial up. > > I applaud Shaw in their actions. I am aware of other ISP's that have > declined service to problematic users, even if those users have not violated > any AUP's. In the cases that I'm aware of, each was warranted. > > Shaw has an obligation to it's shareholders to ensure that you aren't > costing them money. And you have cost them money. I know users that are on > MTS due to the length of time that Shaw allowed you to continue in the > fashion you did. You can go on and on about other posters violating their > AUP, but that's a call that Shaw makes, not you. You're not their enforcer. > If Shaw decides that other users are not detrimental to income levels and > you are, you lose. That's the way it is, and that's the way it should be. > > While on the case of Shaw, what happened to your spiel about you loving > Shaw, and Shaw loving you, and how stable your account was there, yadda, > yadda, yadda? Think maybe you put Shaw into a spot that they were unwilling > to let you? > > > > "�-#� tayl�rchuk ��|I" <db2639@netzero.com> wrote in message > news:66ae96c0.0211191010.5f8e4db@posting.google.com... > > re: Shaw internet cancels account without violation of AUP > > > > Yes we should all be very worried about the actions that Shaw has > > taken. > > > > They chose to cancel my account despite the facts that: > > > > 1. I did not violate their AUP > > 2. I am a paid up customer > > > > They sent a cancelation email and failed to identify ANY violations of > > their AUP but simply said.. > > > > "it is no longer economically feasible for us to continue to provide > > you with Internet services:. > > > > They did NOT outline even a single violation of their AUP in this > > letter because there weren't any. > > > > They just had complaints from people who disagreed with what I said. > > > > This is how Internet providers think that they can operate. > > > > If they or their customers simply don't like what you say, they can > > cancel your account. > > > > No warnings. > > > > > > Their last letter to me about 5 months ago said that they would have > > to keep one of three complaints on record but that I had two > > remaining. > > > > The facts. > > 1. They wrongly suspended my account for 7 days until they realized > > that they had blamed me for a post that was created from someone else! > > No appologies, no refund of monies lost for that period. > > > > 2. they then tried to say that I made a threat when I said in a post > > that a person should be "spanked off the newsgroup". Spank? Thats a > > threat? Since when. > > > > 3. Shaw has allowed other users to blatantly violate their posted AUP > > over and over with threats, profanity and pornographic stories but > > these users have never had their accounts cancelled or even suspended. > > > > So everyone should be worried that an Internet provider can jackboot > > users at their own discretion. > > > > They can be the censors and ensure that nobody ever says something > > that they or their customers disagree with. > > > > I want anyone with information or assistance in this matter to email > > me > > > > donbayomi@hotmail.com > > > > Winnipeg. > > > > The CRTC does not actively regulate the Internet at all. > > > > So lets get a decision..either they don't regulate anything or they > > do. > > > > I get my account cancelled simply because they don't feel like > > addressing the problems of those who violate their own AUP? > > > > I dont' think so. > > > > I have asked for my account back out of the mere principle of it. > > > > You don't have to agree with something that I or others say...but do > > you want to live in a country and have internet providers who can just > > simply accept some complaints from people who disagree with you and > > then take away your account? > > > > No. > >
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