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I too, have to admire the man-he has stayed on the EDGE for years and
has evolved as it has...

                Kneel

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                  --Robert Anton Wilson 
                    and Robert Shea

I saw him in Champaign-Urbana about 2 years ago and he was on that
technology kick then. I knew some guys who went and hung out with
him after he talked and I heard he said that all of his previous work
(the Book of the Dead stuff recently posted) was "all a bunch of shit".

I admire the dude a little, but when he goes back and looks at stuff
he thought of and believed in in the past and calls it "a bunch of 
shit" I dunno. But he is probably the coolest 73 year old out there
though!

Hint of the week:  For the few of you that haven't read it yet,
		   check out "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" by
		   Tom Wolfe -- good book.

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rint69@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (rintoul bradley e) writes:
>I admire the dude a little, but when he goes back and looks at stuff
>he thought of and believed in in the past and calls it "a bunch of 
>shit" I dunno. 

you would rather someone stagnate than grow?

Or is it just that you desire heros or some such bullshit to look up to and
they're supposed to be 'constant'?

...I think I need to check out of this reality for a while and come back when
things get a bit more meaningful...

joe, feeling a bit peeved that he had to WORK instead of asking tim for a
chat...
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Maybe y'all should read some of Leary's old "shit" and then come
back and tell us how you believe every word.....

I find it amusing to collect, barely tolerable to read, but if he
really took it all seriously now I'd be really worried about his
sanity.  There are gems in parts, but there are just as many
clinkers.

You can't fault him for being creative though.
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crimson@banzai.WPI.EDU (Jesus Christ on XTC) writes:

>[note: a.s.h. dropped because there's no reason for it in this thread]

>rint69@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (rintoul bradley e) writes:
>>I admire the dude a little, but when he goes back and looks at stuff
>>he thought of and believed in in the past and calls it "a bunch of 
>>shit" I dunno. 

>you would rather someone stagnate than grow?

>Or is it just that you desire heros or some such bullshit to look up to and
>they're supposed to be 'constant'?

This seems a little harsh...
Well, I'm all for growing, but do you think that if you were listening
to him tell all about microchips in your brain that're gonna allow you
to "telepathically" communicate to people with similar chips that you 
would believe that *he* actually believes it? (sorry, long sentence,
I hope you see my point)  To me, there *does* come a time where you sort
of have to take a stand on things.  Next year Leary'll probably say that 
microchips in the brain is a bunch of shit (which it is). I don't desire
"heroes or some such bullshit" buddy, I don't know how you extracted that
from my post...
Like I said, I admire the guy too; 'cause he's "seen" some shit (I believe)
that I'll never experience.  I suppose all the "open-minded" people out there 
would like no one to ever have an opinion (a sign of close-mindedness) and 
to accept all viewpoints on a topic (to deny that one view might be wrong or
inappropriate would be close-minded). Sorry, you can flame me for that, I
am getting a little carried away...or maybe I wasn't...or maybe I was...no,
I definitely wasn't...yes, I was...Acceptance

.

[a thread about Timothy Leary]


#>rint69@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (rintoul bradley e) writes:
#>>I admire the dude a little, but when he goes back and looks at stuff
#>>he thought of and believed in in the past and calls it "a bunch of 
#>>shit" I dunno. 

He's right.  During the 60's, when everyone else was having fun, Leary
was trying to look like some kind of big shot by pretending the events
of the time (the drug culture) actually had substance.  He was a pretentious
paranoid goober. 

Perhaps the best account of the era was by Tom Wolf in "The Electric
Kool-Aid Acid Test".   While most fun-loving people were out having 
a good time (like Ken Kesey), Leary was, I don't know, like the
drunk at the party who has cornered you into a serious conversation. 

Wolf revealed Leary for who he really was/is.  Most people know very
little, if anything factual about the guy, and when they do get to know
him, they are supremely disappointed, because he just doesnt live up 
to the hype and/or legend that has preceded him.

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In article <1ptv20$gg9@bigboote.WPI.EDU> megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone) writes:
>Tim Leary spoke at Holy Cross, here in lovely Worcester MA. Sure he was 2hrs


Have I missed something here??

Is there more than one Timothy Leary?  I thought THE
Timothy Leary was found dead in his New Hope, PA
home a few years ago.

What gives?

In article <1q5oh0$jbi@access.digex.net> curt@access.digex.com (curt williams) writes:
>Have I missed something here??

Apparently...

>Is there more than one Timothy Leary?  I thought THE

Probably, it is a big planet

>Timothy Leary was found dead in his New Hope, PA
>home a few years ago.
>What gives?

It seems you are either confused or misinformed. THE Tim Leary (sorta famous,
involved with acid in the 60s, offworld migration, served time, etc) is 
alive and well. Looking very healthy for someone born in 1920, still alert 
and energetic... And he still enjoys relaxing with a beer...

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In article <1q5oh0$jbi@access.digex.net> curt@access.digex.com (curt williams) writes:
>In article <1ptv20$gg9@bigboote.WPI.EDU> megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone) writes:
>>Tim Leary spoke at Holy Cross, here in lovely Worcester MA. Sure he was 2hrs
>
>Is there more than one Timothy Leary?  I thought THE
>Timothy Leary was found dead in his New Hope, PA
>home a few years ago.

Timothy Leary is alive and well and living in California (as always).

Abbie Hoffman (another, but quite different, figure from the '60s) was
found dead in his New Hope, PA home in '88(?). Apparently a suicide.

-wjr-

In article <1993Apr10.174636.14693@thelema.uucp> wjr@thelema.uucp (Bill Richard) writes:
>Timothy Leary is alive and well and living in California (as always).
>
>Abbie Hoffman (another, but quite different, figure from the '60s) was
>found dead in his New Hope, PA home in '88(?). Apparently a suicide.


Thanks for the info.  Must have been a combination of Abbie Hoffman's
death (I had the place and circumstances right, just the wrong person)
and that song about Timothy Leary that caused the confusion.

I'm off to the library to see what he's written lately.  People tend
to drop off my reading list when they die, ya know.

Dateline: 11 Apr 1993 10:11:58 -0400
curt@access.digex.com (curt williams) said:

curt> I'm off to the library to see what he's written lately.  People
curt> tend to drop off my reading list when they die, ya know.

Even L. Ron Hubbard??!?!?!??  

-lightnin
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the posting, but the moment has passed, ya know)

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