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Article #7Re: WWA bought by spammers!
From: Chris Williams
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:00
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In article <35fec817.24623679@nntp.enteract.com>, lokari@enteract.com wrote:
>chrisw@wwa.com (Chris Williams) wrote:
>
>>Holtzman found that 32 percent of the Whois traffic - more than generated by
>>all of Europe - was initiated by a single company. He won't name names but
>>said two companies in particular badly abused the database and are now locked
>>out. The culprits initiated parallel sessions via HyperText Transfer Protocol
>>with multiple computers and slowed down by 50 percent access to Whois for the
>>rest of the Net.
>
>>Can identify source
>>Numerous domain name holders said they regularly receive direct mail marketing
>
>>solicitations from such companies as American Express Co. and Verio Inc. and
>>can tell by the addressing that the source is Whois.
>
>As Holtzman said, this isn't spamming as your message subject
>indicates - it's denial of service.
>
>Not to defend Verio, but...
>
>The anecdotal evidence you cite certainly points to Verio mining the
>InterNIC database, which is allowed by NSI according to the message
>you quoted. However, you cite no provable connection between Verio
>mining and Verio causing a DoS
Sure, but Holtzman was worried (rightly so) about getting sued, and
couldn't name names. So the writer was forced to *infer* that Verio is
one of the culprits of the DOS.
>Remember, just because all A is B doesn't mean that a given B must be
>A.
Sure, but if the people who bought my ISP are paper-spamming every
owner of a .com domain, I want nothing to do with them. It indicates
a poor understanding of the culture of the Internet, and a disregard
of the value of WhoIs.
Chris Williams of
Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago
chrisw@wwa.com
"How perfectly goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure" - C. Crumb
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d5fa,f9afab5f728bd57b X-Google-Attributes: gid10d5fa,public X-Google-Thread: 14680a,f9afab5f728bd57b X-Google-Attributes: gid14680a,public X-Google-Thread: 10e835,f9afab5f728bd57b X-Google-Attributes: gid10e835,public From: chrisw@wwa.com (Chris Williams) Subject: Re: WWA bought by spammers! Date: 1998/09/15 Message-ID: <6tmip0$rot$1@hirame.wwa.com> X-Deja-AN: 391465155 References: <6tm8q5$k0r$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35fec817.24623679@nntp.enteract.com> Organization: WorldWide Access - Midwestern Internet Services - www.wwa.com Newsgroups: wwa.general,chi.internet,chi.general