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Re: WWA bought by spammers!

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From: Chris Williams
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:00
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In article <35fec817.24623679@nntp.enteract.com>, lokari@enteract.com wrote:
>chrisw@wwa.com (Chris Williams) wrote:
>
>>Holtzman found that 32 percent of the Whois traffic - more than generated by 
>>all of Europe - was initiated by a single company. He won't name names but 
>>said two companies in particular badly abused the database and are now locked 
>>out. The culprits initiated parallel sessions via HyperText Transfer Protocol 
>>with multiple computers and slowed down by 50 percent access to Whois for the 
>>rest of the Net. 
>
>>Can identify source
>>Numerous domain name holders said they regularly receive direct mail marketing
> 
>>solicitations from such companies as American Express Co. and Verio Inc. and 
>>can tell by the addressing that the source is Whois.                       
>
>As Holtzman said, this isn't spamming as your message subject
>indicates - it's denial of service.
>
>Not to defend Verio, but...
>
>The anecdotal evidence you cite certainly points to Verio mining the
>InterNIC database, which is allowed by NSI according to the message
>you quoted. However, you cite no provable connection between Verio
>mining and Verio causing a DoS

   Sure, but Holtzman was worried (rightly so) about getting sued, and 
couldn't name names. So the writer was forced to *infer* that Verio is
one of the culprits of the DOS. 

>Remember, just because all A is B doesn't mean that a given B must be
>A.

   Sure, but if the people who bought my ISP are paper-spamming every
owner of a .com domain, I want nothing to do with them. It indicates
a poor understanding of the culture of the Internet, and a disregard
of the value of WhoIs. 


Chris Williams of
   Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago
      chrisw@wwa.com
"How perfectly goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure" - C. Crumb
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From: chrisw@wwa.com (Chris Williams)
Subject: Re: WWA bought by spammers!
Date: 1998/09/15
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