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Re: You May Not Be Entitled to Your Spouse's Pension

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From: Gerry Carter
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:00
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RD <doduckr@cadvision.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Gerry Carter wrote:
>
> > RD <doduckr@cadvision.com> wrote in message
> > > why should they ?  do wealthy people really beed $1300 more per month
from
> > > the government ?  im not saying they should be denied $1300 because
they
> > are
> > > rich, only that it comes from the government and it could be used more
> > > effectivly for people who need the money.  Wealthy people should not
be
> > > sucking money from the goverment.
> > >
> > > Robb
> > >
> >
> > So you get to define what wealthy is, to decide how much to pick their
> > pockets for, and you also get to decide that they have no right to ever
get
> > any of it back?  It does NOT come from the government, it comes from the
> > taxpayer, and what I see defined as rich in many of these newsgroups is
> > ridiculous.
> >
> > Receiving back a small percentage of what is paid in is NOT sucking
money
> > from the government.  It is having a thief return you enough money from
your
> > wallet to make your way home.
> >
> > Not hard to tell where your politics are.
>
> where are my politics exactly ?
>
> i have no idea how you define rich.  but i still dont see why a person who
lives
> in a multi million dollar house and then lives 6 months in Palm Springs,
should
> be elegible for a $1300 per month check from the taxpayers.
>
> Robb
>

First of all, the individual you are talking about is a taxpayer as well,
and will pay more in a year than some will in a lifetime.  They are as
entitled to benefit from what is often touted as a universal program as
anyone, particulalry since they are footing so much of the bill.  It is not
a gift to them; it is a return to them of a portion of their gift to the
rest of us.

Nonetheless, the amount paid to such people is small, as they are few in
number and this is not my point anyway;  my point is that the number I have
most often seen tossed around in these newsgroups as defining rich and a
loss of entitlement to a say in anything to do with taxation is $60k.
Quibble about the number, and the definition might get raised as high as
$80k.  This is still far from rich, and only qualifies as comfortable in
today's economy.

This is the segment of the taxpaying public bearing the biggest piece of the
cost as a group, and receiving the least benefit back.
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From: "Gerry Carter" <gerrycarter@home.com>
Subject: Re: You May Not Be Entitled to Your Spouse's Pension
Date: 1999/06/15
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