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Re: News Release: Delwin Vriend Supreme Court Decision

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From: Norman Gall
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 00:00
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In article <3528EF2A.7BF41D68@netcom.com>, Gordon@netcom.com wrote:

> Norman Gall wrote:

> > Protecting homosexuals from the sort of discrimination we
> > are talking about affects *no one* except soem hateful or ignorant
> > people's sensibilities.  Too bad.
> 
> This is not the issue for 'some of us'. Forget the specific issue for a
> moment. For some of us, it's the action taken by the Federal Supreme
> Court that dictates what a provincial law should be in the area of
> discrimination.  

The action by the SCC was to objectively determine that the AB law was not
congruous with the Charter.  Your blaming the messanger for the message.

> Ruling on someone's choice to, or not to, discrminate
> based on behaviour is wrong. It will be interesting over the next number
> of years to watch what happens in Alberta as a result of this ruling. 

You bet it will.

> > I can't fire someone if he's a Reform party member.
> 
> And that is because being a 'Reform party member' (or a member of any
> other political party) does not presuppose any specific behaviour.  

Neither does 'being a homosexual'. One can be a homosexula without ever
having sexual relations, etc.

> If
> you said you would not hire someone as a waitress/waiter because they
> were a member of a certain political group, what does that have to do
> with their demeanor in serving the poublic (which is behavioural).  

Nothing - similarly for hiring a homosexual.

> If
> such a person did have poor behaviour with the public, or whatever other
> behaviour the company deemed appriopriate to it's success, then the
> termination should be supported.

Quite right - similarly for a homosexual, communist, pagan, etc.

> > We can't do it on the grounds of religion either. Read the goddman Charter
> > and the arguments that were used to justify them.
> 
> Religion is a behaviour?

Yes. Just as much as homosexuality is.  No matter how homosexuality is
analysed it is either an immutable property of the individual or a
'lifestlye choice'.  Reglious belief can be similarly analysed.

Norm Gall

-- 
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From: gall@uwinnipeg.ca (Norman Gall)
Subject: Re: News Release: Delwin Vriend Supreme Court Decision
Date: 1998/04/06
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