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Article #27858Re: News Release: Delwin Vriend Supreme Court Decision
From: John Savard
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:00
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gall@uwinnipeg.ca (Norman Gall) wrote: >In article ><Pine.A41.3.95.980402125511.30972D-100000@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca>, >Socred <socred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote: >> Parents will not be allowed to refuse a homosexual >> hockey coach or scout leader. Parents will not be allowed to >> "discriminate" against homosexual predators such as the infamous Graham >> James, coach of the Calgary Hitmen. >The keyword here is 'predator'. They'll always have the right to >'discrimiante' on that basis - just not on the basis of orientation. >There are more heterosexual predators and by parity of reasoning we could >then discharge people on the grounds that they are hetero. The bisexuals >rule the world! The difference, of course, is that if there are any legal limitations to schools and such firing *who* they want *when* they want with the person dismissed *having no legal recourse whatever*, we might have to wait until a sexual predator is _convicted_ if the courts choose to grant him bail! At the very least, he might still get paid a salary, even when the school can no longer safely have him doing work. _Things like that have already happened, both for teachers and for police officers!_ TAX DOLLARS - money taken *by the threat of force* from the people who EARNED it - required to be _wasted_!!! Not one penny of tax money should ever have to go out for anything but value recieved! And by having only male teachers work with male students, and only female teachers work with female students, in high-risk activities like athletics, we can totally prevent sexual abuse, provided that homosexual urges are entirely absent among the teachers used for such activities. If we can't detect pedophiles in advance with 100% certainty, then we have to resort to broader preventive measures. Any interference in people's rights is absolutely trivial compared to the horrendous violation of a child's rights when that child is molested in a way we might possibly have been able to prevent. In any case, the threat of child molesting is a minor factor. The case of King's College had to do with the right of parents to have their children educated in a climate that reflected their own cultural and religious values. According to an _Alberta Report_ article, Delwin Vriend wasn't fired because of his sexuality being accidentally discovered or turned up by some sort of snooping, but because he brought the issue into the classroom - trying to promote a viewpoint contrary to the Biblical beliefs integral to the curriculum of the school. Just as there should have been no need for a hate literature law to deal with Jim Keegstra - he used classroom time to present a view of history contrary to that in the curriculum, and thus he defrauded his employer - I cannot see his firing as other than completely appropriate. But that homosexuals should be protected by law against discrimination where their orientation is irrelevant - and that does cover a lot of ground - is something I agree with. It's still unclear to me exactly what issue was before the Supreme Court, and therfore its specific ruling may have little wrong with it. Currently, though, it doesn't seem like our society is capable of sustaining legislation reflecting such delicate balances. Instead, our current spate of excesses in the name of fairness looks likely to end in a swing of the pendulum back to the bad old days of open discrimination of every kind. John Savard
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f504b,26f128bd92470291,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf504b,public X-Google-Thread: fb626,bcf571f59d59f073 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb626,public X-Google-Thread: 112f74,bcf571f59d59f073 X-Google-Attributes: gid112f74,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,bcf571f59d59f073 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-Thread: fb374,bcf571f59d59f073 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb374,public From: jsavard@teneerf.edmonton.ab.ca (John Savard) Subject: Re: News Release: Delwin Vriend Supreme Court Decision Date: 1998/04/03 Message-ID: <35251291.4182218@news.prosurfr.com> X-Deja-AN: 340563372 References: <Pine.A41.3.95.980402125511.30972D-100000@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> <gall-0204981606260001@usrts2m2.uwinnipeg.ca> Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. Newsgroups: ab.general,can.legal,ab.politics,can.politics,can.general