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In article <3524553B.1C972D88@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>,
commodore-lars@geocities.com wrote:

> Norman Gall wrote:
> > Socred <socred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:

> > > "It's time for moral leadership, not political correctness, invoke
> > > the notwithstanding clause"

> > Trans: "It's time to forget about the individual rights of our citizens."

> Gays already have individual rights.  Try again.

So do women, Muslims, and blacks.  They need their rights pointed out
*explicitly* because of freaks like you.

> > Oh, god. 'Fundamental attack on the moral fabric' This presumes that we
> > want to use the law to promote bigotry and ignorance.

> Or that we have a moral fabric, which several idiots seem to be under
> the opinion of.

> Ignorance?  Who's ignorant?

Uh, you - by the looks of this post.

> "Bigotry" is one of those over-used catch phrases that is inappropriate.

Not in this case - go buy a dictionary.

> > > 1.) Redefinition of the Family

> > Good.

> Can't wait until Ragnarok, huh?

Yahoo.

> > > I believe that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God
> > > and that the family is central to the Creator's plan for the eternal
> > > destiny of His children.

> > Well, interestingly enough, your wrong.

> We all look forward to the proof.

Take a look at any Marriage Act in any province or territory. QED.

> >       This decision doesn't prevent the faithful from getting married,
> > holding a central position in God's plan, or their destiny. It does
> > prevent the faithful from interfering in other people's lives.

> Sometimes we really should.

Not this time.

> > > This ruling will lead to a new definition
> > > of the family by ultimately recognizing homosexual marriage and adoption.

> > Hooray!

> Poor kids.

have you even met the children of homosexual couples? No? Shaddap.

> > > 2.) Eventual recognition of Paedophilia

> > Scaremongering idiocy.

> Really?  With these new "rights", trying to weed out pedophiles becomes
> all the more difficult.

Not at all. more scarmongering.

> > > Nothing is more repulsive than the sexual exploitation and desecration
> > > of children. This decision will eventually legitimize paedophiles.

> > Nope.

> And Trudeau's action in 1968 wasn't going to eventually lead to
> homosexual rights either.

False analogy. 

> > The desire to have sex with children isn't a 'sexual orientation'.

> Pedophiles say so.

No they don't.

> > > 3.) Erosion of Parental Rights
> 
> > > This decision will remove a Parent's right to choose who works with
> > > their children.

> > Based on irrelevant and incosequential ground, yes.  Do you think a parent
> > ahs the right to have a black or male or female or asian or native or
> > white teacher on the grounds that they they don't want one of 'them'
> > teaching their children?

> None of those are behaviours.

Ok, how about people who drink beer? People who drive cars rather than
bikes? People who read novels? People who watch TV? People who wear
sweaters?

> > The keyword here is 'predator'. They'll always have the right to
> > 'discrimiante' on that basis - just not on the basis of orientation.
> > There are more heterosexual predators and by parity of reasoning we could
> > then discharge people on the grounds that they are hetero.

> Yes, there are MORE heterosexual predators.  But homosexuals are 12
> TIMES MORE LIKELY than heterosexuals to sexually molest children.

Nice try.  Show the torturous reasoning that produces this abortion of a
conclusion.

> And the average homosexual pedophiles has 150 victims compared to 20 for
> heterosexual pedophiles.  35% of all pedophiles are homosexuals, who
> make up 3% of the population.

Drivel.

> > > We will eventually
> > > shift from religious freedom to state mandated religious beliefs and
> > > practices.

> > This is slippery-slope scaremongering.

> The slippery-slope has been in existence for 30 years...why will it stop
> now?

 You *are* an idiot, aren't you?

Norm Gall

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