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Started by Kay Robart
Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:04
Huge file size discrepancies when manipulating images
Author: Kay Robart
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:04
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:04
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All, I had some help from some of you last week with some conversions from Word to FrameMaker that made me realize it would be a good idea to start pasting plain text in from my Word documents, and now I have come up with a real puzzler. See if this makes any sense. I created a chapter using the paste plain text from Word method. I don't have the exact size, but the chapter turned out a reasonable size, maybe 100K at most. Then I realized all the graphics were in by reference. Now, I have worked places in the past where we never put our graphics in by reference because of the graphics management issues, so I reimported my graphics (all JPGs, 5 of them, and varying anywhere from about 10K to 150K each) directly into the document. My chapter became a whopping 5000K! This is a five-page chapter folks! With a document of about 70 pages to convert, I will easily and quickly run out of disk space before I can check it in. So, I reimported all my graphics to "by reference." Was I naive to expect my document to return to the original size? Now my chapter is nearly 2500K, about 10 or more times its original size. I don't remember ever having any size issues with FrameMaker when I used it before (for about 15 years, from FM2.0 to 6.0). Does anyone have any suggestions of how to return this document to a reasonable size without starting over again, pasting plain text in from Word? One person at work has suggested that there is still some "gunk" from the Word files in my document and that Kay Robart
Re: Huge file size discrepancies when manipulating images
Author: Kenneth_Benson
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:17
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:17
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Have you Saved As yet? -- Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
Re: Huge file size discrepancies when manipulating images
Author: Thomas_Michanek
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:32
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:32
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Due to a bug/feature in FM, JPEG images are stored with a huge "FrameVector" image when copied into a document. See http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=317432 The recommended way is to use "import by reference". If you must "import by copy", then use another image format than JPEG, e.g. PNG. The reason for the big file size could be that you didn't manage to delete all of the old copied images before you re-imported them by reference. You may have duplicated images by mistake. You check this by selecting an image within a frame, moving it within the frame and see if you have a duplicate behind it. If not, undo the move. You may also try to resave your file in MIF format, close, re-open the MIF file, and resave it in FM format with a new name. -- /Thomas Michanek
Re: Huge file size discrepancies when manipulating images
Author: Winfried_Reng
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:47
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:47
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Hi, I just tested that myself: Created a new document, imported a JPG file by reference (file size almost didn't change, something around 40 kB), then deleted everything, imported a JPG file by copying (file size was now about 1 MB), deleted everything and saved, and the file size was around 40 kB again. Changing the setting "Save FrameImage with Imported Grahics" didn't make a difference. Therefore FM is able to get rid of the imported graphics file. Did you really delete the imported graphics file first, before you imported the same graphics file by reference? You should also delete all graphics (copied and by reference) and then check the file size. If it still has 2.5 MB, convert to MIF and check whether there is anything left. Use the free MIFBrowse utility to search in the MIF file (or any other text editor) and search for "jpg" or the file name. You can get MIFBrowse here: <http://www.grahamwideman.com/gw/tech/framemaker/mifbrowse.htm> Best regards Winfried
Re: Huge file size discrepancies when manipulating images
Author: Julie_Duck
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:21
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:21
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Hello. I'm new to Framemaker (FM) and would like to import a Wordperfect file into FM. My WordPerfect file contains linked jpgs, linked graphs, charts, footnotes, page cross references, and uses styles. Any suggestions or tips on how to best convert this document to a FM document? So far, my best effort involves the following: 1)removing all charts, 2)opening and SAVE AS MS Word 2007, 3)open with FM 4)individually re-insert and link to graphics Is there an easier way? Thanks!
Re: Huge file size discrepancies when manipulating images
Author: Sheila_Carlisle
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:42
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:42
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Re-posted in a separate thread: <http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b74f14>
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