Article View: adobe.photography
Article #582Re: So is the photography forum dead or grasping for its last breath?
From: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:00
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:00
33 lines
2637 bytes
2637 bytes
You've agreed to it every time you've used the site.
Don't be absurd, Peter! You're an adult.
That is at the same level as "by opening this box, envelope or wrapper�" clauses of EULAs on software. See those "Not liable for theft or loss of items left in your car in this parking garage"? Null and void in any court of law. I spent every working day in courtrooms for three decades.
Only effective for intimidating the gullible.
Imagine I put up a sign on my front door reading "By putting so much as a foot on my property you give me the right to shoot you on sight". You thing law enforcement would let me get away with homicide?
By merely entering a parking garage or an Internet forum you agree to nothing. The only remedy the garage owner is to not allow me to park on his property, after he pays for my damages. The only remedy Adobe has is to have its forum bouncers try to ban a user, and you know how "effective" that can be. :( .
I have agreed to nothing, certainly not beyond the consequence of being denied access again.
While Adobe has no incentive to sue someone from whom they cannot realistically recover even court costs, let alone damages, there are thousands of trial attorneys who'd love to tackle Adobe's deep pockets on a contingency basis, without the plaintiff having to disburse even one penny.
Let Adobe misuse one of my images. I'll be financially set for the rest of my life, short a period as that may be. The college funds of all my grandchildren will be secured after I'm gone. I already put all my children through college myself, with the sweat of my brow.
I repeat what I wrote in #57:
All,
Keep on protesting directly to Adobe. They had to roll back similarly
onerous terms shortly after they launched their online editing web site,
Photoshop.com, in the face of outraged protests.
If similar pressure is applied this time too, they will have to modify
the TOU like they did at Photoshop.com.
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<59b85a13.58@webcrossing.la2eafNXanI>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!webcrossingReferences:
<59b85a13.-1@webcrossing.la2eafNXanI>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 1effa1,df98f10b5350a14c X-Google-Attributes: gid1effa1,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII From: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda@adobeforums.com Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!webcrossing Newsgroups: adobe.photography Subject: Re: So is the photography forum dead or grasping for its last breath? Message-ID: <59b85a13.58@webcrossing.la2eafNXanI> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:00:26 -0700 References: <59b85a13.-1@webcrossing.la2eafNXanI> Lines: 46 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit