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Started by Jay Gamel
Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:06
font load order
Author: Jay Gamel
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:06
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:06
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have a situation where Arial Narrow (TT)v 1.15 and Arial Narrow OTTT v 2.35 are installed in the library/fonts folder. when I open a doc on my 10.5x mac(created elsewhere on a mac) that uses the older version in ID3 , it will not even see the older TT, but wants to substitute the 2.35. How can I force ID to recognize two versions of this font or at least to use the older one when called for?I have to swap this file back and forth several times during a production cycle and it's a gib pain in the butt. There are about five fonts like this in the document. If there's an article about font loading order and/or recognition, I'd love to read it. I coudn't find one. Jay gamel
Re: font load order
Author: Herb
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:45
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:45
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Very simply, you can't have two versions of the same font, with identical internal font names, installed on the same system or in use at the same time. A font manager could activate your choice of sets of fonts, then de-activate them when done. This is the equivalent of installing and un-installing automatically. I don't know how it works on a Mac (for operating system specific questions, you'd be better off in an operating system forum), but under Windows, the installed font takes precedence (it doesn't allow multiple fonts with the same font name to be installed in the first place); if not installed, the first one opened dynamically is the one used - BUT it can get confused. Type 1 and Truetype fonts aren't always handled the same way, just to confuse things further. - Herb
Re: font load order
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:08
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:08
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Jay, Herb has pretty much nailed it: you cannot have more than one version of SAME-NAMED fonts active at one time. Use a font manager to activate and control the ONE version of the font you need for the job. Deactivate the other. Duplicate activated fonts can wreak havoc with your system including application stalls, wrong fonts being used, and other problems. BTW, you should use initial capitalization when posting in these forums. If you start a sentence with "i" instead of "I", you invoke italics and drop the "i", making your post harder to read and reducing the likelihood of it being read. I've taken the liberty of fixing your post. Neil
Re: font load order
Author: TaliesinSoft
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:09
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:09
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:06:09 -0500, Jay Gamel wrote (in article <59b6bbae.-1@webcrossing.la2eafNXanI>): [snip] > If there's an article about font loading order and/or recognition, I'd > love to read it. I coudn't find one. There's quite a good book regarding font management under Mac OS X, Leopard, although most of what is in the book is applicable to some prior versions of OS X. The book, "Take Control of Fonts in Leopard" is written by Sharon Zardetto and is available from TidBits <http://db.tidbits.com/> either as a .pdf or in hard copy. Font Book, the built-in font manager in OS X does permit duplicates of a given font to be installed but automatically chooses one of them to be the active version. Which is the active version can be determined by the user. -- James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesinsoft@me.com
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