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Re: VOTE: Sleaziest Presidents of U.S. History.

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From: Jeff Gaer
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 00:00
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ix.netcom.com wrote:

:I cannot find in my constitutional law book(s) that the retention of
:FBI files is grounds for impeachment...can someone please help me?

Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution.

impeachment shall be for "treason, bribery or OTHER high crimes OR
MISDEMEAONORS."

For elaboration I suggest reading'Dynamics of American Politics'-
Prentice Hall 1976 .

   "....the phrase high crimes and misdemeanors 
   can be interpreted in various ways. It may
   mean only legal crimes for which an ordinary 
   citizen could be sent to jail. OR it may
   be interpreted to include presidential
   ABUSE of the powers of office...."

[ they cite Raol Berger, 'Impeachment', Harvard University Press 1976].

The constitution is vague on the subject.
Clearly obstruction of justice or perjury
would be sufficient, (one of which what I
think Starr was after in whitewater), from reading 
the constitution it seems to me that House COULD
initiate  and impeachment proceedings with a simple
majority vote on just about any grounds, conviction only requires
a 2/3 majority of the Senate. At that point it would be the
Supreme Courts call.

and that beacon of the Univerty of Houston, Jeff SALZBERG eloquently
added

:It's right after the paragraph which states
:that disliking the president 
:means he's guilty of an impeachable offense.

Sigh, no wonder our educational system is in trouble.
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From: Jeff Gaer <doggey@io.com>
Subject: Re: VOTE: Sleaziest Presidents of U.S. History.
Date: 1996/11/06
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