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Our nation is in big big trouble Debt
Author: fjld
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:53
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:53
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Here is a link to debt the US govt will be in for long time to come http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080123/ts_nm/iraq_usa_spending_dc ----- Original Message ----- From: "steb" <stenno@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: tx.politics.republic,alt.politics,sac.politics,dc.politic Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:37 PM Subject: Re: The fixed Market and Rich Advantages over the Poor > stocks are not like they use to be, people with inside information seem to > keep knowing and betting successfully before the general market. which > direction the stock goes.Stocks don't go up over the long term as much as > they go up and down, now the question is what mm and insiders allowed to > do > legally and make money before investors? Please read on and send to as > many people as possible > > ">> Subject: Stocks in US are Giant Gambling machines, Election Reform, >> >> >>> PLEASE TELL OTHERS SEND THIS POST AROUND THE NET, Its based on truth and >>> trying to protect people /We need election reform NOW tell others. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> >>>> it use to be stocks were held for values, now they go down because they >>>> can >>>> usually the most or the more money you have in it. the more it goes >>>> down >>>> or more likely it will go down. If these things are >>>> not controlled then Humans don't breathe. >>>> >>>> >>>> Supreme Court finds against investors. How surprising? This countries >>>> needs >>>> election reform now.The gov is now for and by big business, Oil >>>> dependence, >>>> big business allowed to steal from people, dependence on wrong things. >>>> Rich >>>> people allowed to make and interrpret the rules, >>>> rippoffs based on how much you tinvest. The more you invest the more >>>> chance >>>> your stocks go opposite way. I had six stocks, the ones that my friends >>>> invested the >>>> most has tanked three times the market percentage almost and thats >>>> pretty >>>> steeep. Great market segment, great recommendations and of course great >>>> way >>>> to take investors money cause it showed up. >>>> Please pass this on to others from now on, remember the next time they >>>> find >>>> a good reason to take your money. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "steb" <stenno@yahoo.com> >>>> Newsgroups: >>>> misc.invest.stocks,alt.crme,alt.health,alabama.politics,fl.politics >>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:22 PM >>>> Subject: Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, >>>> Values >>>> , >>>> Spread >>>> >>>> >>>>> Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, Values , >>>>> Spread >>>>> of Nukes, Global Warming, Nutrition,Race and Religious Violence. >>>>> Whats that say about this world when the country that is suppose to >>>>> care >>>>> most about doing the right things , the US, and freedom is now >>>>> defauting >>>>> to >>>>> control and censureship and violence more rules for rich and big >>>>> business? >>>>> Do other places have it worse? Absolutely in fact the world is much >>>>> more >>>>> insane but that doesn't make what is >>>>> happening here anybetter.The selling off of nuke secrets by the paks >>>>> is >>>>> inconceivable and this by a so called friend? This will utimately >>>>> spell >>>>> disaster for millions of people and the guy who did this is living in >>>>> luxury. >>>>> Please send this to all your relatives and friends ( even if they >>>>> dont' >>>>> talk >>>>> to you anymore lol) >>>>> My email: mcsantpollution@yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> I am going to try to shorten my post although its still going to be >>>>> long. >>>>> They talk about recession . You know how and when the recession will >>>>> end >>>>> ? >>>>> When most people have lost and gotten out. you know why stocks tank >>>>> fast >>>>> after more people invest? To clean out your investment. Over and over >>>>> the >>>>> stock exchange is ascam allowed to happen by Congress who does little >>>>> to >>>>> take the human factor out of stock transactions but they can. The one >>>>> area >>>>> where automation would probably work they refuse to do it. Getting rid >>>>> of >>>>> market makers. We need election reform badly. >>>>> When will markets go back up ? After you sell for loss When the most >>>>> people get out, thats when the stocks will go >>>>> back up, Bank on it. if you can that is, cause stocks are ponzi >>>>> schemes. >>>>> The more money you invest the MORE likely they take it opposite your >>>>> investment. Day traders lost not because of 50/50 chance of loss its >>>>> because they can go against your investment, take it down once money >>>>> shows up and literally wait till you sell have brokers ready to tell >>>>> you why , like changing conditions? You know whats the changing >>>>> conditions? Your money shows up!!!!! >>>>> I wonder why doing the right things often don't count anymore even in >>>>> the >>>>> US..Why around the world, people need to hate based on old stereotypes >>>>> without rational compromise or determining who has what in terms of >>>>> percentages of land and people or religion Because know that leaders >>>>> and >>>>> gov let bad things happen to keep control (Russia and China and Arab >>>>> Govs) >>>>> and democracy and freedom to diminsh. (US) I wonder why things go >>>>> haywire and people need to cheat and lie in order to gain from people >>>>> , >>>>> but thats not the least of problems. People are being killed in the US >>>>> so >>>>> help me God because of the ability of polluters to have a negative >>>>> effect on people and not have tv news or government protect kids , >>>>> children and others most at risk, thats my asssertion. >>>>> and over and over again its because leaders and governments refuse to >>>>> do >>>>> what is necessary to assure the common good of people.Even in bad >>>>> times >>>>> the >>>>> rich do very well and control serves its purpose.In the US its often >>>>> who >>>>> is >>>>> set up for pain pollution violence or loss in markets or Big business >>>>> ripoffs in oil and >>>>> credit >>>>> cards etc.. Tell you some things that happen. Pollution causes my >>>>> lungs >>>>> constrict literally in so called moderate pollution.I have since seen >>>>> its >>>>> more then just my reaction, I have tested and seen the same conditions >>>>> produce most asthma and respiratory diseases yet nothing is said, >>>>> instead >>>>> selling meds to you day and night You should see my black air filter >>>>> also >>>>> and you can if you look at the links at the end * I have to fear >>>>> violence >>>>> with over 400 murders a year in just one city. I have relatives shot >>>>> and >>>>> murdered by the way. Not much is done to counter it or talk about it >>> I was charged with aphone by Sprint and have yet to get it or remedy >>> the >>> charges. With interest that has gone to 1200 charge and they can report >>> that >>> and lie and ruin my credit. How many bills and receipts do you need to >>> save >>> to prove your case after they put you on hold or talk to automated >>> operators >>> and still hang up on you laughing at times? I got a late feee of $39 >>> from >>> BP >>> credit card sevice after they claim my payment came one day late. It was >>> postdated days before they received it but still allowed to charge me >>> and >>> lie about it close to $40 dollars on top of the already incredible >>> profits >>> from the gas they have to make >>> Why because they can,, they can afford to give you five percent in some >>> charges if they can rip you like this. Then they have other protection >>> service fees with contractors they let them bill and they can't take >>> them >>> off unless you complain for each one lol. Good luck with that. >>> Another internet trading site offers you $100 to change to them.. You >>> want >>> to see how horrible the prices they give when they trade. As soon as you >>> fill out the form to sell the price of stock rose sometimes up to >>> 50cents >>> and within seconds after I bought it was $50cents cheaper.Was it legal? >>> Who >>> knows and they say customer satisfaction? Heck no..They made more then >>> 100 >>> dollars by giving you horrible prices. >>> >>> >>>>> In the US my complaints center about the pain and violence coming >>>>> about >>>>> because people don't have jobs, because people who are our leaders >>>>> ignore >>>>> complaints, like illness from more and more pollution or more and more >>>>> days >>>>> without good air. , because the rules for the rich keep growing at >>>>> the >>>>> expense of doing what is right and the poor.Because more and more, you >>>>> have >>>>> to be rich to get elected to office or get a question answered about >>>>> the >>>>> cost of inflation or fear of violence or losses in the markets. >>>>> Business >>>>> is >>>>> good when fair, its bad and contributes to recession when its >>>>> unfair.Right >>>>> now the rules to gouge consumers from utlities , our dependence on >>>>> oil, >>>>> and >>>>> big business interest rates and their influence is not fair >>>>> >>>>> Now here are some of the consequences I see but can't fully prove.We >>>>> will >>>>> soon cease to be a democracy or republic with equal representation to >>>>> all >>>>> if >>>>> we have not already lost all that.Here are some consequences. >>>>> People who can't afford access are seldom heard complaining and are >>>>> forgotten about even if they number in millions. People who can afford >>>>> to >>>>> complain but are the victims of these policies can be ignored because >>>>> after >>>>> all big companies can reach more people by paid access . Many people >>>>> around >>>>> me complain about limited access and censureship now from our local >>>>> abc >>>>> channel six website where the supposidly have message boards and from >>>>> phillyblog where I routinely am censured. Yahoo use to have free >>>>> message >>>>> boards where you could see the meanspirited intention of people who >>>>> don't >>>>> trust , much of it misplaced towards hating all people equally for >>>>> whatever >>>>> reason. It was a place though at least to hear and show good reason to >>>>> rationalize things if you could filter out the expressions of >>>>> frustrations.Yahoo message boards which were national at least showed >>>>> how >>>>> frustrated real people are about everyday life. I at least try to show >>>>> why >>>>> I >>>>> am . Its a real great mix if you can maintain greatness and freedom of >>>>> all >>>>> and everyone is given equal opportunity but its simply not happening >>>>> anymore. >>>>> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family >>>>> from more ways >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> Insiders and oil companies and utilities find more ways to rape >>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>> without trying to sponser alternatives or fairer ways to act fast >>>>>>>> enough >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is what big business is now allowed to do to you because >>>>>>>>>>>>> they can >>>>>>>> and its not just one company. Sprint charged me for phone and time >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> never used. Literally robbed me and reported to credit agency. I >>>>>>>> owe >>>>>>>> 5000 for something I never received. When you complain you talk to >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> machine that cant understand english or they put you on hold >>>>>>>> knowing >>>>>>>> they don't know what to say to you cause so many complain about the >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> things.. I >>>>>>>> then after swearing all this happens ask people if they are >>>>>>>> surprised, >>>>>>>> they can then get away at poisoning you and not tell you enmass >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> pollution levels that constrict my breathing automatically at so >>>>>>>> called >>>>>>>> moderate or worse pollution levels is ok to ignore as long as you >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> want to move. Thats basically the argument is if you are having >>>>>>>> breathing problems because you complain about quality of air, its >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> whether the damages are real or rated f or not, its who can ignore >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> anyway or force you to move when you often don't even have a job >>>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>>> to pay for outrageous costs of fuel and housing anyway.Who said >>>>>>>> making >>>>>>>> sense or rational reasoning makes more sense then hate, ignorance >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> control? It doesn't. We talk about manipulation of news and such >>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>> the world, but face it we are allowing almost the same >>>>>>>> consolidation >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the news stations in our country although like here on newsgroups I >>>>>>>> still have the freedom to say things others don't. Even though >>>>>>>> Yahoo >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> Philly blog and message boards on tv stations websites are now >>>>>>>> often >>>>>>>> censured, I suppose technically speaking I can't claim we are not >>>>>>>> totally censured in the US now as long as I have access to >>>>>>>> newsgroups.Controlled yes, ignored by politicians yes, for big >>>>>>>> business >>>>>>>> and people who control? Yes, but not total censure ship. >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> >>>>>> Once your money shows up in stocks or a horse in a race, especially >>>>>> big >>>>>> money the less chance your stock or gamble will win. . over and over >>>>>> again >>>>>> you will lose and believe me often they know why after of course you >>>>>> lose. >>>>>> Its like a factory where they try to rationalize your losss after you >>>>>> already lost and they gained or right before. The streetcoms and >>>>>> market >>>>>> gurus have quotes always ready about broker comments to justify the >>>>>> loss. >>>>>> Someone says the industry is tanking or crop is rising prices and >>>>>> thus >>>>>> profit will suffer. Whats amazing these things like stocks tanking so >>>>>> fast >>>>>> in spite of terrific ratings for week after week prior to your >>>>>> investment >>>>>> tanking ...What makes the changing conditions happen where your >>>>>> investment >>>>>> loses so often? YOUR MONEY showing up ,, thats the golden rule in >>>>>> horseracing or in stocks. once it shows up the big boys find ways to >>>>>> go >>>>>> against your play. >>>>> In fact I bet you, you will lose much more >>>>>> then you will gain. Stocks have evolved.. to where your money shows >>>>>> up >>>>>> its >>>>>> played against. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I found the exact theory in horse racing too but like who cares >>>>>> right? >>>>>> Look I try to explain in more detail below, but to be crude it all >>>>>> comes >>>>>> down to this: (stocks) They all go down relative to how many people >>>>>> invested >>>>>> and when. When the kitty ( pot) gets too saturated, its time to clean >>>>>> out >>>>>> the peoples investment no matter how good. sometimes its becauses >>>>>> insiders >>>>>> selling with good information and other times its because brokers >>>>>> know >>>>>> something you don't but often they don't have to even have a >>>>>> reason..they >>>>>> say stocks move for no particular reason when they don't have to give >>>>>> a >>>>>> reason Well don't believe it, believe this, once your big money >>>>>> shows >>>>>> up >>>>>> thats when the stocks start going opposite your play over and over >>>>>> again >>>>>> ..Thats the changing condition they talk about. This recent >>>>>> recession >>>>>> where the nasdaq went down more in two weeks then in two years in the >>>>>> up >>>>>> market. Why because its easier to take your money faster then slower. >>>>> This is not the first time the good stocks that were popular took a >>>>> dive >>>>> that way remember early 2000? >>>>>>> coincidence when the markets tank they tank fast and take your money >>>>>>> down >>>>>> wih it Its no accident when they go up and write about >>>>>> great movers, your stock is not the one they talk about you should >>>>>> have >>>>>> had. The stocks that skyrocket are always without your money in it >>>>>> just >>>>>> under the radar. I guarantee your uncle was not in it either. Gosh I >>>>>> just >>>>>> missed playing that one! lol why is that? >>>>>> Stocks are a bonafide ponzi scheme.. Why is that , because they can! >>>>>> ----- >>>> >>>> >>>>> Pollution and global warming where people are being harmed and not >>>>> told >>>>> en >>>>> mass. Why? Our dependence on dirty energy, diesel and oil and coal has >>>>> harmed millions of people. People say its always been worse, but yes >>>>> now >>>>> we >>>>> know more of the consequences and the changes while happening need to >>>>> happen >>>>> faster to reverse global warming and keep people from being harmed >>>>> from >>>>> pollution. News and tv of course can keep quiet about the damages in >>>>> order >>>>> to collect payment from drug companies and asthma and nebulizer >>>>> medication >>>>> companies instead of telling people why and if they are being harmed. >>>>> Every >>>>> day in this life I am made to breathe moderate or worse particulate >>>>> pollution I have trouble breathing. I believe the only fact left that >>>>> hasn't >>>>> been proving conclusively is if MODERATE doesn't mean in reality >>>>> harmful. >>>>> I >>>>> have trouble believing our government doesn't know of this damage and >>>>> can't >>>>> do more to stop it instead of making more rules for the companies that >>>>> emit >>>>> it to allow it to continue at least to the year 2020 or 2025 . Why do >>>>> I >>>>> have >>>>> to then search for studies to show harm from pollution and be the only >>>>> one >>>>> to put some of the links together to show cause and effect. Are people >>>>> going >>>>> to see my links or believe me over their government or leaders? Of >>>>> course >>>>> not, yet that is what I am saying is happening . My air filter turns >>>>> black >>>>> in 29 days and this is what people who get moderate pollution face and >>>>> of >>>>> course even more ominous is also increasing illness much moret then >>>>> people >>>>> who get clean air too. My contention is and please remember this for >>>>> your >>>>> families, that people are being adversely harmed by breathing >>>>> pollution >>>>> the >>>>> closer they live and work to polluted and congest streets, malls, bus >>>>> depots >>>>> and truck depots and in states and cities with few days of good air >>>>> and >>>>> or >>>>> with most pollution compared to people with good air . There is a huge >>>>> descrepency in health and lost savings that can be measured if they >>>>> want >>>>> to >>>>> . One can though fill in the pieces with the links that I have from >>>>> pollution damage, that more or less shows harm in areas that have been >>>>> tested for pollution and its affects. Realize because of big business >>>>> and >>>>> our energy companies who are often very rich, and influential all >>>>> this >>>>> is >>>>> not packaged together as being a major concern for danger from news >>>>> and >>>>> business. Please remember your city doesn't have to get the most >>>>> pollution >>>>> for you to be at risk because studies suggest and I am here to verify >>>>> that, >>>>> by just breathing moderate pollution can be harmful as in particulate >>>>> pollution. Why this comparision of health based on pollution is not >>>>> being >>>>> done or compared is one way not to inform people of their probable >>>>> harm >>>>> from >>>>> this. Yet the gov does put out the measurement of this pollution and >>>>> other >>>>> sites judge the quality of air in different places. Whats sad is even >>>>> when >>>>> one knows of the dangers some people can't afford to move , There are >>>>> already tens of thousands homeless and basically thats the only way I >>>>> could >>>>> afford to move to clean air places. I will provide the links to some >>>>> of >>>>> the >>>>> dangers after this. >>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> . Business is good, if its fair, its horrible when Big >>>>>>>> Business and people are allowed to honestly take advantage of >>>>> people.There are many other differences between rich and poor that >>>>> needs >>>>> to be addressed. >>>>>> . For ten years I tried to show how news and our epa is not >>>>>>>> protecting people from harm from pollution, by at least showing the >>>>>>>> links >>>>> or asking for studies to show harm correlated to amounts of pollution >>>>> people get. Or by comparing >>>>> amounts of time people live and work near pollution or without clean >>>>> air >>>>>>>> .and then report about how much risk compared to others these >>>>>>>> living >>>>>>>> and working conditions and exposure brings >>>>> between polluted and non polluted population . Instead all the tv >>>>> stations >>>>> and major news has done is talk >>>>> about global warming to some mild degree ignoring harm pollution >>>>> brings.To >>>>> see the links to damage ignored is like a lesson of ignoring the >>>>> reasons >>>>> for >>>>> anything that makes sense. or that actually happened. The epa is >>>>> simply >>>>> not >>>>> protecting people and even after being sued the leaders still default >>>>> over >>>>> and over again to allowing polluters more time to hurt people in >>>>> different >>>>> rulings that bypass protecting kids and babies and adults at risk. I >>>>> claim >>>>> there is more illness, more death , more money spent to treat >>>>> conditions, >>>>> more dependence on harm and less good sleeping less good learning and >>>>> less >>>>> productivity if measuring harm from pollution was really studied in >>>>> detail. >>>>> At the end you will see my links to pollution damage ignored by the >>>>> news >>>>> many times at the expense of those who can't move or are vulnerable >>>>> with >>>>> additional control allowing the news and tv stations to instead of >>>>> telling >>>>> people who are exposed, ,target advertise meds to treat the condition >>>>> these >>>>> people get after exposed and ignore the reasons why they get the >>>>> condition. >>>>> The incredible set up of hurting people and not protecting people >>>>> because >>>>> they can. is now a control and value system in the US.This somehow is >>>>> good >>>>> enough to produce jobs though.? >>>>> If people were to see how seasons disappear practically in little less >>>>> then >>>>> 40 years is to see the damage global warming and possibly more >>>>> pollution >>>>> brings. They talk about one or two degrees swing in temperatures. In >>>>> my >>>>> area >>>>> its produced seasons that use to get snow to seasons that seldom get >>>>> snow. >>>>> It produces averages that are often five or six degrees warmer and >>>>> maybe >>>>> even more harmful if the number of people who need asthma and >>>>> respiratory >>>>> drugs are factored into a study they dont' seem to want to do. >>>>> >>>>> >>> The big money from coal and utilities has made the changes slow >>>>> because >>>>> >>> any changes that doesn't immediately do much more to stop the >>>>> pollution >>>>> >>> harming people who get the greatest percent of days without clean >>>>> air >>>>> and >>>>> >>> or greater amounts of polluted air isn't enough >>>>> >>> Some places more affected >>>>> >>> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution of >>>>> the >>>>> air >>>>> >>> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer or >>>>> heart >>>>> disease, rarely are >>>>> >>> the studies based on pollution numbers although they could if >>>>> they >>>>> >>> wanted >>>>> >>> to show harm.Yet they could . in more and more places the >>>>> percentage >>>>> of days without good air keeps growing .They don't often measure that >>>>> stat,or the ramficiations But I did and its very harmful. Humans need >>>>> good >>>>> air to sustain good quality of life. instead many in policy say >>>>> defaulting>> Now business in the US and stocks >>>>>> Now (Stock >>>>>> brokers and online trade investors often play against >>>>>>>> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> come >>>>>>>> on line >>>>>>>> and trade stocks they will take your money. Its like >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> golden rule to them , and don't think they can't know your >>>>>>>> investment >>>>>>>> history >>>>>>>> or how likely or fast you will buy and sell ..All they are allowed >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> do is go against your play especially the more money you invest. >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> ulitmately means the more you now invest the more you now lose. . >>>>>>>> Your >>>>>>>> money >>>>>>>> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will >>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it.. I honestly >>>>>>>> believe >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the stock market and horse racing is when the more investment >>>>>>>> invested, >>>>>>>> the more >>>>>>>> people win when your play loses .. another wards more chances you >>>>>>>> lose >>>>>>>> based on how much you risked . Over and over again the investors >>>>>>>> lose, >>>>>>>> someone else gains. I am protesting is the unfair advantage >>>>>>>> insiders >>>>>>>> and market makers , maybe >>>>>>>> brokerages have to leverage against your big money. Its like they >>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> when it shows up often because the same people who bet against you >>>>>>>> pump >>>>>>>> the things they hope you invested in, so they can bet against you >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> aMy >>>>>>>> contention that stocks and other gambles are played against people >>>>>>>> started >>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>> ago when relatives in college along with a professor worked out a >>>>>>>> winning >>>>>>>> strategy at the track. They followed the strategy for a year and >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> fairly certain the system would work. It worked all the time fake >>>>>>>> bets >>>>>>>> ( on paper) >>>>>>>> were placed. Once though the real money showed up. the horses and >>>>>>>> plays >>>>>>>> lost. That was the end of horse racing for them. Later as I >>>>>>>> invested >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> stocks, i saw basically the possibility that the same things >>>>>>>> occurred. >>>>>>>> Stocks that did good on paper, seldom matched that performance once >>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>> money showed up. The willful evolution of >>>>>>>> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your >>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> sure at least with them) and >>>>>>>> market makers. Seriously REMEBER this ,it don't matter how good a >>>>>>>> stock >>>>>>>> is.. the people >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your >>>>>>>> play >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse >>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>> said stocks are reasonable? Most of the time however they have >>>>>>>> brokers >>>>>>>> Quoted for explanations right while the stock tanks..Those links >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> left at stock message boards for investors to ponder as why your >>>>>>>> great >>>>>>>> play has all of a sudden turned south. Broker says bla bla >>>>>>>> .happened, >>>>>>>> which is every possible reason changing conditions made your loss >>>>>>>> inevitable I will tell you what made your loss REALLY The >>>>>>>> conditions >>>>>>>> that made it lose... YOUR MONEY SHOWED UP and maybe others all long >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> short and that my friends are the changing conditions that allowed >>>>>>>> insiders and brokers to go against your play and they can't lose.. >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> must lose...Never put a stop order in , they almost certaintly will >>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>> it . >>>>>> Take >>>>>>>> going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot >>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated. or >>>>>>>> invested in defense industry or computer you probably lost. The >>>>>>>> companies whose crop prices are used, are now said has gone up too >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> and demand is too low... . Whatever it takes to say whatever to >>>>>>>> leverage >>>>>>>> their money against yours is legal. This is my honest to Gods >>>>>>>> opinion. >>>>>>>> Can you make money ? I guess, I certainly have not and no one i >>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> . i don't know if this is how it use to be or its changes over the >>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>> but I am guessing its changed over the years. The only plays that >>>>>>>> win >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> the stock companies insiders >>>>>>>> who know when to buy after you lose or get out and sometimes after >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> invest also and MM and I am guessing brokerages who are in it to >>>>>>>> pump >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> dump..and get commission fees.based on false so called market >>>>>>>> prices >>>>>>>> or market prices that mysteriously are less or more then in real >>>>>>>> time. >>> .. How popular and great is your stock? The >>>>>>>> more popular and the more money >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> put in the more reasons the people in the markets can bet against >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> lose,.. the markets don't have to go down for you to lose, just >>>>>>>> opposite >>>>>>>> your positions!!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> conclusions I le >>>>>>>> Do you see the same news stories on tv? >>>>>>>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate >>>>>>>>> tv >>>>>>>>> ownership? >>>>>>>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation? >>>>>>>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> world? >>>>>>>>> Do you see your stocks going up? >>>>>>>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school? >>>>>>>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance >>>>>>>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news? >>>>>> Do you see credit card companies and big business have a lock to ruin >>>>>> your >>>>>> credit and charge outrageous fees ? If they lie, how much time do you >>>>>> have >>>>>> to save every letter and transaction? And mark my words they will lie >>>>>> to >>>>>> collect and steal from you because they can. They will throw in >>>>>> charges >>>>>> on >>>>>> your bills and claim that was part of the game they call business , >>>>>> how >>>>>> much time do you have to counter them? >>>>>> Congress is now a group of people who basically make rules for the >>>>>> rich >>>>>> because >>>>>> millionaires supported their wins in elections. >>>>>, The stock >>>>>>>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just >>>>>>>>>>> usually >>>>>>>>>>> goes >>>>>>>>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! . >>>>>>>>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote. >>>>>>>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> real >>>>>>>>>>> links >>>>>>>>>>> to real studies . >>>>>>>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invested >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually >>>>> go down, >>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it to >>>>> go up ( . But it can >>>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end. >>>>>>>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back don' >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows >>>>>>>> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock >>>>>>>> tip >>>>>>>> chances are great your wave will break as soon as your big money >>>>>>>> shows >>>>>>>> up.almost >>>>>>>> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then >>>>>>>> bring >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> back up when your no >>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>> in the stock .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up >>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>> usually when the least >>>>>>>> amount of investors who just got out are not there). and you say >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> yourself I should have just stayed in right? Who buys back so fast >>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or >>>>>>>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers. >>>>>>>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to >>>>>>>> vulnerable at higher prices and only they make the profits.. and >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> start the process >>>>>>>> over and over. Insiders and money market >>>>>>>> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like a big company I used >>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>cause of commissions. I saw a stock in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time selling for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approx $11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WITHIN >>>>> SECONDS IT was $11.54,, >>>>> dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my >>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for $11.68, >>>>> again.seconds >>>>> later >>>>> Do I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time >>>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they can >>>>> get away with it, is it legal? Why should it be? . then I >>>>> bought a stock in real time that was >>>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made >>>>>>>> a buy order and within five seconds the price was$ 44. 80. Did I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> to >>>>> buy ? no but I said to >>>>> myself its remotely possible the market price is honest but as >>>>> soon as I looked at real time >>>>> after I bougght the price was $44: 38 again .. someone raised it >>>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a >>>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down fifty cents seconds >>>>> later. They can say I didn't have to buy but I can say is it >>>>> legal to raise the price to whatever they can get after you fill >>>>> out a market order/ maybe it is maybe its not, its surely not >>>>> ethical! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?) both trades within seconds.. this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money from big business.. Legal what? . Never ever >>>>>>>>! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> however long they want >>>>>>>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers? Your guess, its built >>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six >>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>> later talk how horrible the exact site they pumped a few months >>>>>>>> ago >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> this is really true.in order to take your hard earned dollars, its >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> ponzi scheme. >>>>>>>> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what >>>>>>>> causes >>>>>>>> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against >>>>>>>> Where >>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce agency >>>>>>>> recent >>>>>>>> decision ( I >>>>>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that allows Tv station >>>>>>>> owners >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and >>>>>>>> fewer >>>>>>>> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse >>>>>>>> viewpoints. >>>>>>>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view >>>>>>>> points. >>>>>>>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality >>>>>>>>>>..The stock that go >>>>> go up the most ...all just happen to >>>>>>>> fall beneath the >>>>>>>> radar, and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone >>>>>>>> says >>>>>>>> something.like >>>>>>>> .."TILL Wall Street >>>>>>>> discovered it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers >>>>>>>> it... Why woulda stock stop going up >>>>>>>> when wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> likely to go up? OOPS Its seriously a giant ponzi scheme.? Of >>>>>>>> course, >>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> US. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this country.as >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution >>>>>>>> kill >>>>>>>> people and harms people yet many children and adults are not >>>>>>>> protected >>>>>>>> from getting too much of this daily or informed of its dangers. >>>>>>>> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been >>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> show studies of such things yet millions of people arestill not >>>>>>>> told >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would >>>>>>>> sooner >>>>>>>> talk >>>>>>>> about tummy tucks or depression in midwest then about real >>>>>>>> dangers >>>>>>>> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Thats the MOST >>>>>>>> depressed >>>>>>>> and most asthma,, totally ignored. Why because they can? and they >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> sell ads for health care instead. Suffice to say when i showed >>>>>>>> links >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> show harm here they ingored me as did the politicians. >>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> here >>>>>>>> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> power of the media and society values that filter down to people. >>>>>>>> C O N T R O L and harm is more important then truth so help me >>>>>>>> god. >>>>>>>> Face >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> media >>>>>>>> would rather stay mum about oil and coal and deisel pollution >>>>>>>> ,kill >>>>>>>> their own population but then sell them >>>>> >>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only knew >>>>> pollution levels realitive to harm, >>>>> , or percentage of days we don't get clean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> air does to people you would know why ignorance is bliss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not reporting things spells control of wrong values. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> harmed at will and gov and industry know better. but do nothing >>>>>>>> immediate >>>>>>>> to save people most at risk. its shameful. Trust me its happening >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> certain areas., its the Gods truth. in the area.. People say >>>>> write >>>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answers from no >>>>> responses. >>>>> ya..Thats the mentality of leaders knowing your value to them. and >>>>> thats >>>>> the , >>>>> the meaness of society now. Where harming you can be ignored Of course >>>>>>>> >> ..They often totally ignore the reality I >>>>>>>> write bout here. The violence in society is often ignored in >>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>> elections by politicians and national news and we have basically >>>>>>>> come >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members >>>>>>>> withoutdoing >>>>>>>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still >>>>>>>> more still then most of the world but thats not >>>>>>>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people >>>>>>>> in the US >>>>>>>> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder >>>>>>>> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distancing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reform. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all >>>>>>>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the >>>>>>>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep >>>>>>>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> >>>>>> 600dollars because they could . >>>>>>Why well of course they can >>>>>>>>>>> get your money fster that way!!! Make >>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids >>>>>>>>>>> bully? >>>>>>>>>>> Look >>>>>>>>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much >>>>>>>>>>> money >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate or >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>>> mouse trap yu can make over others. >>>>>>>>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like >>>>>>>>>>> crap.....We >>>>>>>>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity >>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. If your a >>>>>>>>>>> victim >>>>>>>>>>> thats >>>>>>>>>>> the price you >>>>>>>>>>> pay by being ignored. and not represented by Gov. We need >>>>>>>>>>> election >>>>>>>>>>> reform badly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reporters would sooner ask question I want answered as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tv >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and news >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to get cute >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> state or another >>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>>>>>> oil >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spirited, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WW >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy I can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or influence , and go to sleep >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> night without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. with no responses from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Change might take place but its too slow and too late for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seriously the next biggest concern I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> besides crime is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> years.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Phil says I need to go out and find a job.. oh ok... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go >>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside see thousands of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thousands are in welfar line they never report on. >>> They >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> close >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things. >>>>>>>>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and >>>>>>>>>>>> frisk. >>>>>>>>>>>> cameras, >>>>>>>>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> kids >>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>> identify >>>>>>>>>>>> danger before they are in jeopardy. Job Training! Do we >>>>>>>>>>>> empower >>>>>>>>>>>> kids >>>>>>>>>>>> to take back >>>>>>>>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional situations or do we let >>>>>>>>>>>> gangs >>>>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>>> control for >>>>>>>>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families >>>>>>>>>>>> encouraged >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> stay together? .is it fair to give ex criminals jobs over >>>>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>> need training and never did crime? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We should >>>>>>>>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for >>>>>>>>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. If I were to really describe >>>>>>>>>>>> real >>>>>>>>>>>> deterrents most people would rather see the expectation of 30 >>>>>>>>>>>> thousand >>>>>>>>>>>> kids and women and men murdered each year at least instead of >>>>>>>>>>>> doing >>>>>>>>>>>> more to stop these criminals. Torture is when good people hear >>>>>>>>>>>> horrible >>>>>>>>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people >>>>>>>>>>>> murdered >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> shooting >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on >>>>>>>>>>>> inspite >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> advances in technology in every other area, Fbi is making a >>>>>>>>>>>> database >>>>>>>>>>>> for dna.. how about doing that at birth? .Not one idea to do >>>>>>>>>>>> anything >>>>>>>>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death >>>>>>>>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their >>>>>>>>>>>> health >>>>>>>>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing >>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>> life >>>>>>>>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring >>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have >>>>>>>>>>>> access >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> speak out. >>>>>>>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil >>>>>>>>> producers. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> production >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> it..Man Face it these countries we then give aid to have no >>>>>>>>> obligation >>>>>>>>> to fight for peace or freedom without hate.. >>>>>>> . when the same stations use the same stories over and over >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bye >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depression >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traps? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich >>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>>>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those >>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not. >>>>>>>>>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect >>>>>>>>>> families! >>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal >>>>>>>>>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the >>>>>>>>>> damages >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> life for decisions they had no power about? First never smoke, I >>>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced >>>>>>>>>> though, >>>>>>>>>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the >>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to >>>>>>>>>> examine >>>>>>>>>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and >>>>>>>>>> where, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that >>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> health, >>>>>>>>>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how >>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>> clean >>>>>>>>>> air >>>>>>>>>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Proportion when all things were >>>>>>>>>> compared >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>> habits. >>>>>>>>>> People are much more at risk simply living or working on streets >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.I >>>>>>>>>> believe >>>>>>>>>> anyway.. >>>>>>>>>> REMEMBER DON"T SMOKE EVER, .. and Its not how >>>>>>>>>> good a company is its how much of your >>>>>>>>>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable. >>>>>>>>>> http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r31/mlarry51/?action=view¤t=filter2.jpg >>>>>>>>>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered, >>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down. >>>>>>>>>> How >>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> know? My lungs constrict everyday in it and when I am not in >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> type >>>>>>>>>> of air I don't have >>>>>>> constricted lungs. >>>>>>> My air filters turn >>>>>>> black in less then >>>>>>> 30 days >>>>>>> I >>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am >>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not >>>>>>>>>> protected >>>>>>>>>> from refinery and industry pollution and auto exhausts and so >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>>>> without clean air. >>>>>>>>>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> the twilightzone. so should we not complain when someone like me >>>>>>>>>> sees >>>>>>>>>> all this happening? Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer. >>>>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for >>>>>>>>>> allergy >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business >>>>>>>>>> telling >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> why >>>>>>>>>> we need Our teams seldom win, American Idol was in >>>>>>>>>> Philly >>>>>>>>>> and someone with clean air in Oregon and California got the best >>>>>>>>>> reviews. >>>>>>>>>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. >>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>> negative >>>>>>>>>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or >>>>>>>>>> schizophrenic >>>>>>>>>> surprised@) . >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to >>>>>>>>>> rest >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how >>>>>>>>>> harmed >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally. . I >>>>>>>>>> seriously >>>>>>>>>> think we need >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, >>>>>>>>>> affected >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> people here. The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to >>>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very >>>>>>>>>> depressed >>>>>>>>>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and >>>>>>>>>> respiratory >>>>>>>>>> disease and its all ignored. God help --\ >>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and >>>>>>>>>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of >>>>>>>>>> gasoline, >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please >>>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and >>>>>>>>>>> cancer >>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in >>>>>>>>>>> path >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> coal >>>>>>>>>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city >>>>>>>>>>> prettty >>>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about >>>>>>>>>>> worsening >>>>>>>>>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve >>>>>>>>>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming >>>>>>>>>>> ten >>>>>>>>>>> years. >>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more >>>>>>>>>>> violence, >>>>>>>>>>> (then >>>>>>>>>>> average) kids not learning, and horrible health ratings and ads >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> target >>>>>>>>>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because >>>>>>>>>>> politicians >>>>>>>>>>> let >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> happen. >>>>>>>>>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or >>>>>>>>>>> cab >>>>>>>>>>> driver >>>>>>>>>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50 >>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in >>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthcheck&id=5653450 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NUE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.megaportal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=X3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y1Z2k383e3 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> now heart disease worsens because of it. >>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pollution and heart disease >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> parituclate pollution dangers >>>>>>>>>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature >>>>>>>>>>> death, >>>>>>>>>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the >>>>>>>>>>> California >>>>>>>>>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25 >>>>>>>>>>> minutes >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the >>>>>>>>>>> board >>>>>>>>>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to >>>>>>>>>>> ultra-fine >>>>>>>>>>> particles >>>>>>>>>>> can occur during a commute. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of >>>>>>>>>>> Southern >>>>>>>>>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term >>>>>>>>>>> exposure >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> hardening >>>>>>>>>>> and narrowing of the arteries. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. >>>>>>>>>>> "It's >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by >>>>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> years." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid >>>>>>>>>>> yourself; >>>>>>>>>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007 >>>>>>>>>>> report >>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels >>>>>>>>>>> during >>>>>>>>>>> commutes >>>>>>>>>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio, >>>>>>>>>>> documented >>>>>>>>>>> diesel >>>>>>>>>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars, >>>>>>>>>>> buses >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on >>>>>>>>>>> alternative >>>>>>>>>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in >>>>>>>>>>> cars >>>>>>>>>>> traveling >>>>>>>>>>> with little truck traffic >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DEATHS caused by pollution >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dying For a Change - >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause: >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air >>>>>>>>>>> contributes >>>>>>>>>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80 >>>>>>>>>>> percent >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to >>>>>>>>>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers, >>>>>>>>>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to >>>>>>>>>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people, >>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere >>>>>>>>>>> 2.5 >>>>>>>>>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the >>>>>>>>>>> population >>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have >>>>>>>>>>> serious >>>>>>>>>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and >>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the >>>>>>>>>>> incidence of diseases." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13 >>>>>>>>>>> Aug >>>>>>>>>>> 2007 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or >>>>>>>>>>> caring >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in >>>>>>>>>>> polluted >>>>>>>>>>> air >>>>>>>>>>> , or not worrying about their diet then worrying about a drugs >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give >>>>>>>>>>> medical >>>>>>>>>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that >>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>> like diet and bad habits is the differences between people who >>>>>>>>>>> live >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> work in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the >>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> live >>>>>>>>>>> near >>>>>>>>>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone >>>>>>>>>>> ot >>>>>>>>>>> lives >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> pollution >>>>>>>>>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the >>>>>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>>>>> twenty >>>>>>>>>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, >>>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at >>>>>>>>>>> exactly >>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>> fault >>>>>>>>>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in >>>>>>>>>>> together >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to >>>>>>>>>>> human >>>>>>>>>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me >>>>>>>>>>> god.well >>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were >>>>>>>>>>> born >>>>>>>>>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I >>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> pollution >>>>>>>>>>> (coal , transportation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent >>>>>>>>>>> ill >>>>>>>>>>> effects >>>>>>>>>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to >>>>>>>>>>> lessen >>>>>>>>>>> them.. Whats that say about this world when the country that is >>>>>>>>>>> suppose to care most about doing the right things and freedom is >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> defauting to control and censureship? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > "jsl" <nospamjsl[@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:VSZhj.52$s67.51@trndny05... >> Do you see the same news stories on tv? >>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv >>> ownership? >>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation? >>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries of >>> the >>> world? >>> Do you see your stocks going up? >>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school? >>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance >>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news? >>> What are you crazy or stupid >>> >>>-------------------------------- >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "yjr" <uo[@yahoo.com> >> Newsgroups: >> alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,tx.politics >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:26 AM >> Subject: The US our Press Don't Talk about World Alert >> >> >>>> > >>>>> the fixing of the stock market continues >>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have a >>>>> reason >>>>> for >>>>> taking it down they will think one up. recession , drop in jobs ( same >>>>> reason they used to take it up too lol) smaller then realized profits, >>>>> transportation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, read on, The >>>>> stock >>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually goes >>>>> opposite your big position.. This post I >>>>> got more email then any other. >>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com >>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote. >>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is real >>>>> links >>>>> to real studies >>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market. >>>>>>>>> for ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who >>>>>>>>> invested >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in usually >>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>> down, >>>>>>>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested. >>>>>>>>>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back in >>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money >>>>>>>>>> shows >>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>> yet >>>>>>>>>> again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip >>>>>>>>>> chances >>>>>>>>>> are great >>>>>>> your wave will break as soon as your big money shows up.almost >>>>>>>>>> guaranteed. Market makers >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> keep it down till you leave then bring it back up when your no >>>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> it.- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up ( usually >>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>> amount of investors who just got out are not there). and you say >>>>>>>>>> to yourself I should have just stayed in right? Who buys back so >>>>>>>>>> fast after you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or >>>>>>>>>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers. >>>>>>>>>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to >>>>>>>>>> vulnerable >>>>>>>>>> and only they make the profits.. >>> and just start the process >>>>>>>>>> over and over. Insiders and money market >>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>> capitalize and of course brokers like Scott Trade. Don't ever >>>>>>>>>> invest in Scott trade. I saw a stock in real time selling for >>>>>>>>>> approx 11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form the price was 11.54,, >>>>>>>>>> it dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my >>>>>>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for 11.68, then I >>>>>>>>>> bought a stock in real time that was going for approx 44.39. I >>>>>>>>>> made a buy order and within five seconds the price was 44. 80. I >>>>>>>>>> said to myself its remotely possible but as soon as I looked at >>>>>>>>>> real time after I bougght the price was 44: 38 again .. someone >>>>>>>>>> raised it close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( >>>>>>>>>> just a coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down to fifty cents >>>>>>>>>> seconds later ( coincidence again?) both trades within seconds.. >>>>>>>>>> This is in addition to other ways to get the traders. Never >>>>>>>>>> invest >>>>>>>>>> in Scott trade. but of course >> >>>>>>>>>> the rest are thrown out into the fires with automatic losses. >>>>>>>>>> Never >>>>>>>>>> ever >>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>> a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out.. Never ever >>>>>>>>>> day >>>>>>>>>> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best >>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>> is wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day >>>>>>>>>> traders >>>>>>>>>> lose.. The market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or >>>>>>>>>> market >>>>>>>>>> makers play >>>>>>>>>> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the >>>>>>>>>> company >>>>>>>>>> is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is to be >>>>>>>>>> played >>>>>>>>>> against!! . the human element is killing >>>>>>>>>> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the >>>>>>>>>> wind... >>>>>>>>>> They can keep your stock opposite the way you went for however >>>>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who >>>>>>>>>> fixes >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> this?MM insiders? commission sellers? Your guess, its built into >>>>>>>>>> the system. the investment sites >>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> pump a play in one day and six months later talk how horrible the >>>>>>>>>> exact site they pumped a few months ago and this is really true. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Where does it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal >>>>>>>>>> commerce agency recent decision ( I >>>>>>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that allows Tv station >>>>>>>>> owners to >>>>>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and >>>>>>>>> fewer different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of >>>>>>>>> diverse viewpoints. >>>>>>>>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view >>>>>>>>> points. >>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality I >>>>>>>>> write >>>>>>>>> about here. >>>> The >>>>>>>>> violence is ignored in general elections and we have basically >>>>>>>>> come >>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Money sites talk about hidden gems that go up usually without >>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>> knowledge, , then they talk which >>>>>>>>>> ones to get in now,, rarely going up the same percentages if at >>>>>>>>>> all , as the >>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>> you just " happened" to miss..The ones that go up the most ...all >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> happen to fall >>>>>>>>>> beneath the radar, and go up >>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>> no one you knew was in it...till someone says something.like >>>>>>>>>> .."TILL >>>>>>>>>> Wall >>>>>>>>>> Street >>>>>>>>>> discovered it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers >>>>>>>>>> it... >>>>>>>>>> Why >>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>> a stock stop going up >>>>>>>>>>when wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the >>>>>>>>>>more >>>>>>>>>> likely to go up? OOPS Its seriously a giant ponzi scheme.? Of >>>>>>>>>> course, now this >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the US. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The pollution factor which kills people is ignored in >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this country. >>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>> media would rather sell oil and kill their own population but >>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>> sell >>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only knew >>>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>> pollution readings , >>>>>>>>>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> not tell you why >>>>>>>>>> you need these things. Trust me its happening in certain areas., >>>>>>>>>> its the Gods truth. >>>>>>>>>> Its >>>>>>>>>> ok to choke and be ignored if tv news can sell >>>>>>>>>> you meds.instead of telling you the consequences from this air or >>>>>>>>>> show harm correlations to pollution in the area.. >>>>>>>>>> thats the mentality of the meaness of society now. Of course the >>>>>>>>>> consolidation of news stations almost assures all these things I >>>>>>>>>> write >>>>>>>>>> about to continue .The federal commerce agency recent decision >>>>>>>>>> ( I >>>>>>>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc maybe )that allows Tv >>>>>>>>>> station >>>>>>>>>> owners to >>>>>>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and >>>>>>>>>> fewer different owners, and less different perspectives of >>>>>>>>>> freedom >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diverse viewpoints. >>>>>>>>>> .. that reeks havoc to >>>>>>>>>> independence and truth..They often totally ignore the reality I >>>>>>>>>> write >>>>>>>>>> about here. >>>>> The >>>>>>>>>> violence in society is often ignored in general elections by >>>>>>>>>> politicians and national news and we have basically come >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members without >>>>>>>>>> doing >>>>>>>>>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin >>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in some >>>>>>>>>> cities! and thats more still then most of the world but thats >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> US >>>>>>>>>> will be shot or killed each year, .20 to 50 k will die from >>>>>>>>>> murder >>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>> suicide Why should the peoplei n power care, >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> live >>>>>>>>>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't >>>>>>>>>> care.. >>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get >>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing >>>>>>>>>> themselves >>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election >>>>>>>>>> reform. Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all >>>>>>>>>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the >>>>>>>>>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep >>>>>>>>>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars >>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> 800 after accumulated late fees and interest, Its legal robbery. >>>>>>>>>> If a store clerk could get away at selling something for such a >>>>>>>>>> profit on such a low price item they would hold him for gauging. >>>>>>>>>> In american the rich get to do it daily . How in the hell can >>>>>>>>>> they then get more legislation to keep getting more ways to >>>>>>>>>> collect? Our congress gives em more ways to collect also >>>>>>>>>> . We have violence that is worse then many terrorist >>>>>>>>>> countries >>>>>>>>>> so anything is possible. and its totally ignored in our press >>>>>>>>> My Hillbilly friends tell me we are at that awkward time when it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> too late for them to fix things, but still too early to drag the >>>>>>>>> bastards out to be shot. >>>>>>>> As long as they are not physically going after you consider >>>>>>>> yourself >>>>>>>> lucky >>>>>>>> especially if you believed in doing the right things and have >>>>>>>> watched >>>>>>>> depressing things happen to your stocks and neighborhoods. >>>>>>>> We have an economy based on people like this who manipulate stocks >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> tells >>>>>>>> you what you don't want to hear in order to gain from your >>>>>>>> investment..its >>>>>>>> that simple.. If this really happens imagine what else they can do >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Finally there are millions without jobs, there are people who get >>>>>>>> > commercial >>>>>>> after commerical for nebulizers and have to breathe polluted air >>>>>>> every >>>>>>> second of their life or much more then people in other areas who get >>>>>>> clean air. . The >>>>>>> largest >>>>>>> differences in health is often based on the pollution factor. The >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> who ate the same things, but live in polluted areas near crowded >>>>>>> streets with much traffic or near truck depots and >>>>>>> or bus depots and or downwind from coal have much more illness then >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> people who live in clean air. but no one tells them these things. . >>>>>>> there are people who can't afford food or health >>>>>>> care, >>>>>>> yet we bring millions more people here who often need help also!!! >>>>>>> Everybody hates one another and >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> millionaire gets elected. Market makers have a license to steal from >>>>>>> investors. You never ever day trade or have a stop loss order. its >>>>>>> automatically taken out and not one Congressional investigation. You >>>>>>> pay >>>>>>> more money to oil and energy then anything in your life often >>>>>>> combined >>>>>>> while millions live >>>>>>> in poverty.. so why you surprised? >>>>>>> Remember this about stocks >>>>>>> "> go. The giant up factor is usually when your not in them. They >>>>>>> literally >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> track your investment knowing your trading history and when your >>>>>>>> likely >>>>>>>> to sell. >>>>> The republican role models and democrats >>>>>> who do nothing about crime, immigration ,dependency on terror, >>>>>> violent >>>>>> crime, murder, >>>>>> dependency on court >>>>>> systems,hate, pollution and oil , coal, and stock scams. Our role >>>>>> models >>>>>> have >>>>>> left >>>>>> us.I repeat our role models have left us.! They just ignore the >>>>>> people >>>>>> who are the real victims and who can't afford to voice opinions. Most >>>>>> people have no clue what some cities welfare lines look like and yet >>>>>> its >>>>>> virtually ignored along with the people who don't have jobs. >>>>>> God help us >>>>>> Are there agood things about US? yes but lets be honest what is >>>>>> happening >>>>>> now .kids come to school with guns, one of the largest cause of death >>>>>> for >>>>>> women in the US is murder. millions not counted out of work or >>>>>> unemployed. Many thousands of kids have violent video games and WW >>>>>> wrestling as their role models. >>>>>> SS is going >>>>>> to have to be in debt for decades to pay people who are going to need >>>>>> it >>>>>> to >>>>>> survive. >>>>>> . >>>>>> stocks fixed, pollution damage ignored, global warming ignored, >>>>>>> immigration >>>>>>> ignored, violent crime ignored by all major candidates ( not >>>>>>> politically >>>>>>> correct), unemployment all virtually ignored by our politicians and >>>>>>> press , who virtually put out what they want you to see, not that >>>>>>> which is most important ..along with Britney Spears and movie stars, >>>>>>> and the weather , >>>>>>> not reality. People seem so cold hearted and controlled like robots, >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> the old movie time machine and see how people don't care anymore in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> future.. and they >>>>>>> become emotionless and if you do care the leaders come after >>>>>>> you..Get >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> movie and play it back and you tell me if you don't think our >>>>>>> leaders >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> like that and people too ... People are immune from responding cause >>>>>>> they are use to it : can we say control and this control filters to >>>>>>> even >>>>>>> workers at welfare where some ( not all ) of he workers treat their >>>>>>> clients with total diserespect. >>>>>>> Kids and their families are often treated like dirt because they >>>>>>> need help and workers are not trained right or do what they want.. >>>>>>> Some are very good though just so you know I am very objective ... >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> you see how abuse of control filters >>>>>>> down to kids ( bullying) and even people who are suppose to help... >>>> >>>> . The same >>>> issues that one day bring up stocks (economy slowing down) are the same >>>> exact issues the news people suggest bring down stocks after you invest >>>> (economy and recession). I never ever saw such set up and controls and >>>> stocks go up and down so fast.. Make >>>> no >>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids bully? >>>> Look >>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money you >>>> have >>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate over others. >>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like >>>> crap.....We >>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity >>>> between >>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. If your a victim >>>> thats >>>> the price you >>>> pay by being ignored. >>>>>>> Reporters would sooner ask question I want answered as the Tooth >>>>>>> fairy. >>>>>>> The idea of >>>>>>> tv >>>>>>> and news >>>>>>> is to get cute >>>>>>> people to laugh all day and >>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows and Jerry >>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know you >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If your >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> out of >>>>>>> state or another >>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations and >>>>>>> big >>>>>>> oil >>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean >>>>>>> spirited, >>>>>>> WW >>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream, >>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or are >>>>>>> taking >>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games. >>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing people >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> love >>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy , and go to >>>>>>> sleep >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> night without >>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to be >>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not >>>>>>> always >>>>>>> about decpetions and control. . Seriously the next biggest concern >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> besides crime is >>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and >>>>>>> transportation >>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for years. >>>>>>> Go >>>>>>> outside see thousands of >>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. They have >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> hope >>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime comes >>>>>>> close >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these >>>>>>> things. >>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and frisk. >>>>> cameras, >>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and kids >>>>> can >>>>> identify >>>>> danger before they are in jeopardy. Do we empower kids to take back >>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional situations or do we let gangs >>>>> take >>>>> control for >>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families encouraged to >>>>> stay together? . >> >>>> >>>> We should >>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for >>>>> life. death penalty don't work. Torture is when good people hear >>>>> horrible >>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going on >>>>> without >>>>> a >>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people murdered >>>>> and >>>>> shooting >>>>> of >>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on inspite >>>>> of >>>>> advances in technology in every other area.Not one idea to do anything >>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death >>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their health >>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing their >>>>> life >>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab >>>>>>>> production >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for >>>>>>>> it..Man >>>>> >>>>> Face it when the same stations use the same stories >>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more then >>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts >>>>> >>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting >>>>>>>> bye >>>>>>>> with enough food and health care, >>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone else. >>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs or >>>>>>>> depression >>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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