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Article #4896Re: Nice ... Listen
From: honestjohn
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:37
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:37
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"ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message news:459707d0$0$6293$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > honestjohn wrote: > > "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:45907175$0$25973$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >> honestjohn wrote: > >> > "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> > news:458faaa0$0$25963$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >> >> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >> > ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >> > news:455915a4$0$25959$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >> >>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >> >>> news:45550be4$0$25928$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >> >>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >> >>>>> news:4553b33f$0$25960$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >> >>>>>>> news:454d1536$1$25954$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised in > >> >> >>>>>>>>> news:453ad37f$0$15892$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com: > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Real Friendit Naybourhood Wote Monger wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> news:45342108$0$15888$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Free Speech wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4531d1ba$0$15908$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:18 -0500, "honestjohn" > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"http://www.infowars.com/" <truth@r.us> wrote in > > message > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8p5rg25son1qrqoqbmfje2spdiro2fc16k@4ax.com... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn" > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><honestjohn@centurytel.net> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <splifingate@gmail.com> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Art Deco wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/11277554/modern > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >_t im es > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Hi Alexa! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Alexa! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Hi Alexa! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Hi Alexa! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Hi Alexa! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Hi Alexa! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Hi Alexa! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>fiat money > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>Taking recipes for roasted gold bullion. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA > > now. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >:)))) > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The Meta Game: US Response to losing control > > to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >technological > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >advancement > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006 > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's ability > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S. > > citizens > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >approval > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and > > may > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >be voted on by > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >full > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Senate as early as next week. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >approved SB2453, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >National > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >co-written by > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>committee's > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) > > in > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >concert with the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>White > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >House. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The committee also passed two other > > surveillance > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >measures, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>including > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >one > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one > > of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the few senators > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >be > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency > > program. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein's bill, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >bill, rebuffs the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >declares the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warrantless > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping illegal. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's right to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wiretap > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the > > U.S. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Attorney General > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans so long > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to > > monitor > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrorists > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spies. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for > > the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >American Civil > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Liberties > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning." > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >conduct in wiretapping > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Americans > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the > > Foreign > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Intelligence > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Surveillance > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >springboard to not only > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >FISA > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Program, but to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >going > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans' > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >privacy rights," Graves > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >said. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >moderate Center for > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Democracy > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage > > out > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of committee as > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"light > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act." > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to > > rein > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>president's > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >legislative > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ratification > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping of Americans," > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Dempsey > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its > > vacuum > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >cleaners on even > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >domestic > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >fashion by defining > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >all > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >kinds of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance," said Dempsey. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless > >> > surveillance > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >a "festering > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sore > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >on our > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >allows, but does nor > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >require, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance program to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>review > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >by a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >promised to submit > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >NSA > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a > > requirement > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that all > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >surveillance of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >accordance with FISA. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >But > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >aide > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically > > changes > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA or the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balance > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update > > to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA that moves > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >law > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to > > the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >aide, who spoke > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >on > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >background. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans' > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >international > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorization, but says the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only targets communications where one side or > > the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >other has > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suspected > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorist connections. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to > > believe > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the current system > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >needs > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the > > number > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of judges that > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>issue > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >warrants. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the > >> > terrorist-surveillance > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, and > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >I > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >come > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without sacrifice > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >our > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >national security, through court-issued > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >individualized warrants > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >content > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >process," Feinstein said > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wednesday > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in a press release. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >That program has recently been declared > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >unconstitutional by a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>federal > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >judge > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more > > than > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >20 lawsuits across > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >country. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs > > that > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >catch the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>substance > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance that > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >captures, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >such as phone > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>records, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >considered surveillance. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >attorney general to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as > > there's > >> > no > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"substantial > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >likelihood" > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that an American's communication would be > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >captured. Repeals the provision of federal law > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that allows the government > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >unfettered > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without > >> > warrants > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or notification > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >15 > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of > > any > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >congressional > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >restraint on > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts > > the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president at the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >height, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time > > of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >war, even an > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >undeclared > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >one. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that > > limits > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the government's > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >wartime > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >physical searches > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >period > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts > > a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >time limit on the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct > >> > warrantless > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >physical > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law, > >> > the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president has > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >power > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of > > war. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or > > she > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >designates, to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring > >> > all > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>instant-messaging > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >systems > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government > >> > promises > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to delete anythi > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ng > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >not > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorism-related. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA > >> > surveillance > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >secretive > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >appointed by the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chief > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >lawyers would be > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >in > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the courtroom. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance programs > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >whole, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >particular persons > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >sponsored by Rep. Heather > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wilson > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday, > > but > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >was canceled. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon > >> > next > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >week by voice > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vote, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according > > to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the ACLU's Graves. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Such a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted > > for > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or against the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bill. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >? > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.ht > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >ml > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Humm, lessee.... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer > > To > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Live In A Fascist > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dictatorship: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 10. 1.2 children allowed > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 9. Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour, just > > enough > >> > to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> buy a gallon > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> after taxes. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 8. Sending your children to be murdered in > > wars > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> for oil in the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >east > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 7. Spending 250k for a college education, only > > to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> find you're on > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >hit > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire US government > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 6. Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> European bank who is > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >backing > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained > > from > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> financing your > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>house > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 5. Everyone has a microwave and financed car > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 4. You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> funding the US > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>treasury, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> is bankrupt > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 3. Democracy means they want you to prop up > > the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire economy > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> trinkets made in China > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 2. Peace is a treasonable offense > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 1. If you don't go along with the above plan > > for > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> the New American > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Century > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all > > of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> eternity in one > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cot, like the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Katrina > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> victims. Though it's looking more like they > > just > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> gave them a tent > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> The Local Exxon Station. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> And.... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 0. Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out > > of > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> oil. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >goups? > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >You should get WebTV. That will clip them right > >> > off! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Double-A > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, saucerhead! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper! > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald, > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Renewable > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393 > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (303/384-6764; fax: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 303/384-6790). > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YES...YES...YES... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your > > alternative > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy needs are > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which psyops > >> > the > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet instead > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of actually planning for the loss of oil? > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially considering you've been duped by people > > vastly > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more knowledgeable > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than YOU. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, kiddies. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Alexa. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you will > > die > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing my > > 1/4 > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> acre lot on the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly > >> > distributed > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> amongst my children. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hiah, Who did you think you were saying hello to? > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> My future. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Hello > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Hello > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> I don't know why > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> I sold the Dodge > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Cos it was Dodgey. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> I mis-took it as a Ram, and blundered the entire deal. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> So it had terrible ramifications? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> You'll have to ask the other drivers. > >> >> > > >> >> > Can dead people speak? > >> >> > >> >> Sure. > >> >> > >> > "ah" is proof of that! > >> > >> You have no idea, Boy. > >> > > Glad to see you "came back" for just one more jab. > > I was in my Cups. > "C" cups, dad you've been taking the wrong hormones! HJ
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