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>> >> > ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
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>> >> >
>> >> >> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >>> news:45550be4$0$25928$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >>>>> news:4553b33f$0$25960$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >>>>>>> news:454d1536$1$25954$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in
>> >> >>>>>>>>> news:453ad37f$0$15892$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Real Friendit Naybourhood Wote Monger wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> news:45342108$0$15888$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Free Speech wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4531d1ba$0$15908$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:18 -0500, "honestjohn"
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <honestjohn@centurytel.net>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"http://www.infowars.com/" <truth@r.us> wrote in
> message
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8p5rg25son1qrqoqbmfje2spdiro2fc16k@4ax.com...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:40:17 -0500, "honestjohn"
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><honestjohn@centurytel.net>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >news:170920060905418868%erfc@netcabal.com...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Double-A <double-aa@hush.ai> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >http://www.infowars.com/ wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:41:53 -0400, ah
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <splifingate@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Holly wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >_t im es
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>Hi Alexa!
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>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Everyone is a terrorist suspect in the USA
> now.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >:))))
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The Meta Game:  US Response to losing control
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>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >technological
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >advancement
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >15:30 PM Sep, 13, 2006
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A bill radically redefining and expanding the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's ability
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >eavesdrop and search the houses of U.S.
> citizens
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >approval
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >passed a key Senate committee Wednesday, and
> may
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >be voted on by
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >full
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Senate as early as next week.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >approved SB2453,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >National
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Security Surveillance Act (.pdf), which was
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >co-written by
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>committee's
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania)
> in
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >concert with the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>White
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >House.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The committee also passed two other
> surveillance
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >measures,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>including
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >one
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), one
> of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the few senators
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >be
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >briefed on the National Security Agency
> program.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein's bill,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter co-sponsored before submitting another
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >bill, rebuffs the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >administration's legal arguments and all but
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >declares the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warrantless
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping illegal.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >In contrast, Specter's bill concedes the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's right to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wiretap
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans without warrants, and allows the
> U.S.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Attorney General
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorize, on his own, dragnet surveillance of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans so long
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >stated purpose of the surveillance is to
> monitor
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrorists
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spies.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Lisa Graves, senior legislative counsel for
> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >American Civil
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Liberties
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Union, called the bill "stunning."
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"The administration has taken their illegal
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >conduct in wiretapping
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Americans
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without court orders, in violation of the
> Foreign
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Intelligence
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Surveillance
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Act and the Constitution, and used it as
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >springboard to not only
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >FISA
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >changed to allow the Terrorist Surveillance
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Program, but to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >going
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >forward, not give protections to Americans'
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >privacy rights," Graves
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >said.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Jim Dempsey, the policy director for the more
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >moderate Center for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Democracy
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >and Technology, described the bill's passage
> out
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of committee as
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"light
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >years or miles beyond the Patriot Act."
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"What started out as Sen. Specter wanting to
> rein
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>president's
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >has turned on its head and is now not just a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >legislative
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ratification
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, but an expansion of warrantless
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping of Americans,"
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Dempsey
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >said. "It would allow the NSA to turn its
> vacuum
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >cleaners on even
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >domestic
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails of citizens.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"They do all of this in Alice in Wonderland
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >fashion by defining
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >all
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >kinds of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >categories of surveillance to be not
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance," said Dempsey.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter, who called NSA's warrantless
>> > surveillance
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >a "festering
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sore
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >on our
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >body politic," champions his bill, since it
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >allows, but does nor
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >require,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the administration to submit the whole
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance program to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>review
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >by a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >secretive court. Specter says President Bush
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >promised to submit
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >NSA
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to the court, if the bill passes.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill also strikes from U.S. law a
> requirement
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that all
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >surveillance of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >suspected spies and terrorists be done in
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >accordance with FISA.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >But
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >aide
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for Specter disputes that this radically
> changes
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA or the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balance
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers: Specter considers this to be an update
> to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >FISA that moves
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >law
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >toward where technology is now, according to
> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >aide, who spoke
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >on
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >background.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Bush has acknowledged the NSA program monitors
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Americans'
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >international
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >phone calls and e-mails without court
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >authorization, but says the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >program
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only targets communications where one side or
> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >other has
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suspected
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorist connections.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Feinstein says her briefings lead her to
> believe
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the current system
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >needs
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >only minor changes, such as increasing the
> number
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of judges that
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>issue
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >warrants.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"I have been briefed on the
>> > terrorist-surveillance
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program, and
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >I
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >come
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to believe that this surveillance can be done,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >without sacrifice
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >our
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >national security, through court-issued
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >individualized warrants
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >content
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >collection on U.S. persons under the FISA
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >process," Feinstein said
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wednesday
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in a press release.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >That program has recently been declared
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >unconstitutional by a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>federal
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >judge
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in Detroit, and is being challenged by more
> than
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >20 lawsuits across
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >country.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >The bill:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Redefines surveillance so that only programs
> that
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >catch the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>substance
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >communication need oversight. Any government
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance that
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >captures,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >analyzes and stores patterns of communications
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >such as phone
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>records,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >or
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >e-mail and website addresses, is no longer
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >considered surveillance.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Expands the section of law that allows the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >attorney general to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >spying on foreign embassies, so long as
> there's
>> > no
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >"substantial
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >likelihood"
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that an American's communication would be
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >captured. Repeals the provision of federal law
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >that allows the government
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >unfettered
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and physical searches without
>> > warrants
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or notification
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >15
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >days after a declaration of war. The lack of
> any
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >congressional
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >restraint on
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the president's wartime powers arguably puts
> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president at the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >height,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >rather than the ebb, of his powers in any time
> of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >war, even an
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >undeclared
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >one.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that
> limits
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the government's
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >wartime
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >powers to conduct warrantless wiretapping and
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >physical searches
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >period
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >of 15 days after a declaration of war.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Repeals the provision of federal law that puts
> a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >time limit on the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >government's wartime powers to conduct
>> > warrantless
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >wiretapping and
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >physical
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >searches against Americans. Under current law,
>> > the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >president has
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >power
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >for only 15 days following a declaration of
> war.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the attorney general, or anyone he or
> she
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >designates, to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >authorize
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >widespread domestic spying, such as monitoring
>> > all
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>instant-messaging
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >systems
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >in the country, so long as the government
>> > promises
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to delete anythi
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ng
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >not
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >terrorism-related.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Moves all court challenges to the NSA
>> > surveillance
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >program to a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >secretive
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >court in Washington, D.C., comprised of judges
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >appointed by the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chief
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Justice of the Supreme Court. Only government
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >lawyers would be
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >in
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the courtroom.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Allows the government to get warrants for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >surveillance programs
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >as
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >whole,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >instead of having to describe to a judge the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >particular persons
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >monitored and the methods to be used.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >A markup of the corresponding House bill,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >sponsored by Rep. Heather
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Wilson
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >(R-New Mexico) was scheduled for Wednesday,
> but
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >was canceled.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Specter has moved to have his bill voted upon
>> > next
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >week by voice
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vote,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >called a unanimous consent motion, according
> to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >the ACLU's Graves.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Such a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >procedure would leave no record of who voted
> for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >or against the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bill.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1%2C71778-0.ht
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >ml
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Humm, lessee....
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Top ten Reasons Why Any Idiot Would Volunteer
> To
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Live In A Fascist
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dictatorship:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 10.  1.2 children allowed
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 9.  Minimum wage is $5.25 per hour,  just
> enough
>> > to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> buy a gallon
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> after taxes.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 8.  Sending your children to be murdered in
> wars
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> for oil in the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >east
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 7.  Spending 250k for a college education, only
> to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> find you're on
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >hit
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> list as an intellectual who is smarter than the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire US government
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 6.  Spending 450K for an apartment owned by a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> European bank who is
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >backing
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> your hard earned money with hegemony gained
> from
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> financing your
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>house
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 5.  Everyone has a microwave and financed car
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 4.  You get to pay 3/5 of your annual salary
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> funding the US
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>treasury,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >which
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> is bankrupt
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 3.  Democracy means they want you to prop up
> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> entire economy
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> trinkets made in China
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 2.  Peace is a treasonable offense
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <drum roll, maestro!>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 1.  If you don't go along with the above plan
> for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> the New American
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Century
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of Glory and Flag Waving, you get to spend all
> of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> eternity in one
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Dickie's Concentration Camps, with 3 hots and a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> cot, like the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Katrina
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> victims.  Though it's looking more like they
> just
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> gave them a tent
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> The Local Exxon Station.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> And....
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> 0.  Queen Beatrix and Queen Elizabeth are out
> of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> oil.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Did you realize you are smamming to 10 different
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >goups?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >You should get WebTV.  That will clip them right
>> > off!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Double-A
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, saucerhead!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hi, Most mentally retarded Alpine Nazi Goat Humper!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To participate or to comment, contact Carl Osterwald,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Renewable
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Energy Lab, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (303/384-6764; fax:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 303/384-6790).
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl_osterwald@nrel.gov
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/FEBRUARY_2000/solar.html
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YES...YES...YES...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you feel, well, encouraged knowing your
> alternative
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy needs are
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being met by a front operation for the CIA which psyops
>> > the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet instead
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of actually planning for the loss of oil?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ob.htm
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially considering you've been duped by people
> vastly
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more knowledgeable
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than YOU.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, kiddies.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Alexa.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shim Skirtvan is a grandchild of Rothchild. And you will
> die
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I do, at least I will have the comfort of knowing my
> 1/4
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> acre lot on the Shore of Lake Ozark will be evenly
>> > distributed
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> amongst my children.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hiah, Who did you think you were saying hello to?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> My future.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Hello
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Hello
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I don't know why
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I sold the Dodge
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Cos it was Dodgey.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I mis-took it as a Ram, and blundered the entire deal.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> So it had terrible ramifications?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You'll have to ask the other drivers.
>> >> >
>> >> > Can dead people speak?
>> >>
>> >> Sure.
>> >>
>> > "ah" is proof of that!
>>
>> You have no idea, Boy.
>>
> Glad to see you "came back" for just one more jab.

I was in my Cups.
-- 
ah