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kittykat <kittykat@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> Rod Speed wrote

>> It appears to have affected about half the tracks, like I said early
>> on. I was basically looking for a tool that would give me a clear
>> display of errors per track so I could see how many of the bad
>> tracks the owner of the CD cared about recovering.

> Heres a wild card possiblity, that disk was burnt in
> multple sessions and has not been closed properly

Nope, that was reading it on the burner.

> and/or the felt pen has damaged the next session info.

It appears to be entirely physical, in the sense of the tracks physically affected.

> This would account for not being able to revcover
> any tracks past apparently damaged track.

You can actually, you can read the last one fine.

Which fits the possibility that its the felt tipped pen thats
the problem,  the visible effect on the non label side
doesnt extend right out to the edge of the burnt region.

And when attempting to play it with mediaplayer, the dud tracks appear to
be playing in mediaplayer, they are listed, and just dont produce any sound.

>>> By the way do you recall what you called me about a year
>>> ago when I posted regarding felt pens damaging CD's ?

>> Just your fantasy/lying. I just commented on your peurile antics
>> about working out which was the writeable side of the blank.

> Well I will feel for centre hub ridge on writable side of all disks and
> inset disk with this side down, you can continue to inset disk in burner
> and if burn fails then open burner and take CD out and turn it over.

Got SFA to do with your fantasy/lie above.

> If you think my method is purile then by all
> means you go with your more mature method.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way
out of being called on that lie better than that.

>> As far as the use of felt tipped pens are concerned, I JUST
>> said that you dont see reports of the Sanford Sharpies producing
>> that result, NOT felt pens in general. And you yourself said
>> that you hadnt seen any problem when using a sharpie.
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3b3d19b8%241%40news.iprimus.com.au

> Because I always use coated disks for data (Kodak) so this
> minimises chances of damage from felt tipped pens and sharpies,

Got SFA to do with the dearth of reports of problems with sharpies.

> and I use CD pens now.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

>>> Anyway thats history, so try those tools, and try using a specialty
>>> CD pen (eg Stadler) even though you find the tips too thick.

>> It wasnt one I wrote on, it clearly aint, its obscenely
>> thick, much worse than the Staedler or TDK.

> If you have had one disk go bad I would check any important
> *data* disks, especially disks made by same manufacturer.

I already said its an audio disk.

> Use CDR Identifer to check manufacturer
> http://www.gum.de/cdrid/
> Free download.

No thanks, I'll notice a complete dearth of any reported problem with the sharpie instead.

> It seems likely that disk damage by felt pens is mainly a result of
> poor disks coatings being susceptible to felt pen ink penetration,

Corse it is, particularly when the effect is visible on the non label side.

> it may well be that the same pen will never affect disks with better coatings.
> No hard evidence but obviously best not to take chances with data,

No thanks, I'll notice a complete dearth of any
reported problem with the sharpie instead.

> with music its not so important.

Specially when its not even my disk.