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Re: NEWS: Up to 2 years for even small panel cell antennas to be approved in San Francisco

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From: Char Jackson
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:09
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:49:05 -0700, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:18:03 -0700, in
><rnu55651esmbuk9a51ebgu51vl043dn6fl@4ax.com>, DevilsPGD
><Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>>In message <daf4565na6ianj22krurgusdul3vq881s9@4ax.com> John Navas
>><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:19:05 -0700, in
>>><2q4456h5erv7jfegqt0154vtb0uqblfh7g@4ax.com>, DevilsPGD
>>><Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <nj3456praioq3mlij37c4bcst6i8n0d6i3@4ax.com> John Navas
>>>><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:26:13 -0700, in
>>>>><1fj3565k3evc6jje3ij8shhfkftbgp6et6@4ax.com>, DevilsPGD
>>>>><Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In message <3t2356h5420lsqfvhe1h5cp12nnqt9vk59@4ax.com> John Navas
>>>>>><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:41:02 -0700, in
>>>>>>><4c5176da$0$22167$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
>>>>>>><scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David Kaye wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I know that it's nice to have good cell coverage, but the antennas are 
>>>>>>>>> unsightly.  Especially in a city such as SF where people are proud of the 
>>>>>>>>> architecture and the views, hanging antennas on the sides of buildings makes 
>>>>>>>>> them really really ugly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I was at a meeting where T-Mobile was given approval for a rooftop 
>>>>>>>>antenna with the only caveat being that they had to shield the equipment 
>>>>>>>>(not the tower) from view from the nearby neighborhood. They refused.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The early carriers (who eventually morphed into Verizon and AT&T) have 
>>>>>>>>the advantage of having been able to install lots of towers before 
>>>>>>>>neighborhoods realized what was happening, in addition to the advantage 
>>>>>>>>of being on 800 MHz not 1900 MHz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There is no such advantage, as the citations I've posted make clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you're saying that all other things being equal, a 800MHz signal and
>>>>>>a 1900MHz signal will penetrate typical buildings and other structures
>>>>>>equally?
>>>>>
>>>>>Read the cited references.
>>>>
>>>>You didn't cite any... 
>>>
>>>I did.  Do keep up.  Otherwise, "Google is your friend".
>>
>>In other words, you don't know, can't answer, have no cites, and want me
>>to do the research to prove it?
>
>Nope.  Try again.

Actually, he had it exactly right.
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