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On 7/16/2010 12:33 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article<UP_%n.36625$Ls1.22532@newsfe11.iad>, John Slade
> <hhitman86@pacbell.net>  wrote:
>
>>       What does this have to do with someone paying for Vista to
>> get fixed? I seem to remember that when people didn't like
>> features of Vista, MS didn't try to hide it.
>
> yes they did. steve ballmer said vista was a huge success.

      Did they lose money on Vista or make money?

>
>> I also know that
>> when Windows has a security issue, MS comes out with a fix and
>> doesn't try to hide the fact.
>
> bullshit.

       Boy that was a well thought out response.

>
>> I know that when Apple decided to
>> include a malware scanner in their OS, they tried to keep it a
>> secret.
>
> apple did not include a malware scanner.

    Apple includes a malware scanner in OS X Snow Leopard that 
scans for a few trojans and worms.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/apple-adds-malware-blocker-in-snow-leopard/4104

    I think Apple did the right thing in including it but they 
should at least admit they do this. Apple also issued a 
statement recommending that OS X users use a third party malware 
scanner but quickly took that document down for some reason.

>
> what they did was block two specific trojans that the user needed to
> install

      That's what malware scanners do.

>
>> Now with this antenna problem on the iPhone, they tried
>> to hide it by saying it didn't exist.
>
> nope, they admitted it early on.

     First they said it was a problem then they said it was a 
software problem then they admitted it was a hardware issue again.

>
>> They actually took down
>> threads about it on Apple's forums. This is very shady.
>
> they took down *some* threads, ones which turned into flame fests.

     I remember Apple doing this with a few other issues then 
when it becomes news, they stop.

>
>> To
>> compound problems, it looks like Jobs knew of the problem before
>> release but gave it the green light anyway.
>
> that's been refuted too, both by apple and other sources.

      But not by the engineer who worked on it and warned Jobs 
of the problem. He's more credible than Jobs given Apple's 
history. I mean if he didn't know it was an issue, this shows 
incompetence in development and testing. If he did know, he's a 
liar. I tend to think Jobs was lying. I remember back in the 90s 
when Apple put out a firmware upgrade that would brick a Mac if 
they used a third party CPU upgrade. They told multiple lies 
about that one.


>>
>>       I'm going to see how Jobs addresses these issues. Will Jobs
>> apologize? Will he offer free stuff? I hope he doesn't announce
>> he's suing Consumer Reports and Whoopi Goldberg.
>
> he did apologize and offered free cases.

  I'm glad he's not suing anyone.

John