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In article <Bt50o.12900$OU6.12407@newsfe20.iad>, John Slade
<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote:

> >> I know that when Apple decided to
> >> include a malware scanner in their OS, they tried to keep it a
> >> secret.
> >
> > apple did not include a malware scanner.
> 
>     Apple includes a malware scanner in OS X Snow Leopard that 
> scans for a few trojans and worms.

nope. 

> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/apple-adds-malware-blocker-in-snow-leopard/
> 4104

that quotes intego who is well known for lying about malware to further
their sales. in the most recent event, they said that some app was
stealing user data, but never mentioned which app, only that users
should run out and buy their product. why not mention the app so that
users could avoid it? that would not increase their sales.

however, it turns out that the app in question specifically asks the
user for permission to upload the data. that means it's not malware at
all.

at macworld expo 2 years ago i think it was, they said how dangerous
some new malware was. someone i know went beyond the sound bites and
found that not only was it not dangerous, but it was a linux exploit
and *could not be compiled* on the mac. in other words, they lie.

another malware company claims their product protects against a whole
slew of mac viruses, except that a large number of them are all for
pre-os x, and do absolutely nothing, even in classic. a pet rock is
equally as protective.

>     I think Apple did the right thing in including it but they 
> should at least admit they do this. Apple also issued a 
> statement recommending that OS X users use a third party malware 
> scanner but quickly took that document down for some reason.

they removed the technote because it was outdated and no longer applied
to os x.

prior to os x, there were a handful of viruses that could
self-propagate. most of them did nothing more than do something
annoying (like a goofy message) but a couple of them actually deleted
user data. having some form of anti-malware was a good idea, back then.

with os x, everything is different. there is no malware in the wild.
none. the only malware that does exist are some proof of concepts that
require the user to deliberately install them and provide their admin
password, and even after they do that, the result is fairly lame.

> > what they did was block two specific trojans that the user needed to
> > install
> 
>       That's what malware scanners do.

no, scanners scan. that's why they're called scanners. 

what apple did was specifically block two trojans, specifically by name.

> >> Now with this antenna problem on the iPhone, they tried
> >> to hide it by saying it didn't exist.
> >
> > nope, they admitted it early on.
> 
>      First they said it was a problem then they said it was a 
> software problem then they admitted it was a hardware issue again.

nope. they said that the bars were inaccurate and changed it (not that
it matters, bars don't mean much) and are offering cases. they still
say the antenna performs better, something that anandtech and others
have confirmed. call drops increased only slightly and they're still
investigating why.

> >> They actually took down
> >> threads about it on Apple's forums. This is very shady.
> >
> > they took down *some* threads, ones which turned into flame fests.
> 
>      I remember Apple doing this with a few other issues then 
> when it becomes news, they stop.

sure you do. absent any specific examples, it's specious.

> >> compound problems, it looks like Jobs knew of the problem before
> >> release but gave it the green light anyway.
> >
> > that's been refuted too, both by apple and other sources.
> 
>       But not by the engineer who worked on it and warned Jobs 
> of the problem. 

the engineer himself said it was bullshit.

> He's more credible than Jobs given Apple's 
> history. I mean if he didn't know it was an issue, this shows 
> incompetence in development and testing. If he did know, he's a 
> liar. I tend to think Jobs was lying. I remember back in the 90s 
> when Apple put out a firmware upgrade that would brick a Mac if 
> they used a third party CPU upgrade. They told multiple lies 
> about that one.

you remember incorrectly. apple did no such thing.