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On 7/12/2010 2:44 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article<qEL_n.10358$wm1.6901@newsfe01.iad>, John Slade
> <hhitman86@pacbell.net>  wrote:
>
>>>>         Yea it's clear from Youtube videos and tests like the one
>>>> from CR that the iPhone 4 has a hardware problem when it comes
>>>> to the antenna.
>>>
>>> touch any phone's antenna, watch what happens.
>>
>>        The iPhone 4's antenna is put in a bad place. Right where
>> someone would hold it. That's poor design and apparently Apple
>> has job openings for antenna engineers now. I wonder if they
>> fired the guy who decided to put the antenna there.
>
> the job openings were there since last january and likely have
> absolutely nothing to do with the iphone.
>
> other phones have antennas in bad places too, like this one:
> <http://i48.tinypic.com/x0xsi9.jpg>
>
>>>> Apple is flat out lying when they say it's only
>>>> a software issue.
>>>
>>> when did you examine the software?
>>>
>>> oh right, you didn't.
>>
>>        Apple claimed that there was no hardware issue with the
>> iPhone's antenna.
>
> apple said the iphone 4 has the best reception of any phone, something
> that anandtech confirmed.

          I don't know if this is true or not but it doesn't 
have that great reception if the person holds  it without duct 
tape, a case or some other device.

> apple also said there are problems with the
> firmware and they're working on fixing it.

     Apple claimed it was a problem with the software that gave 
incorrect readings on the signal strength meter. They put out a 
patch and claimed that was the real problem behind the problem. 
However many people have implemented the patch and still have 
the problem. There are videos on the Internet confirming this. 
The antenna is in a bad place, plain and simple.

>
> however, everyone is suddenly an rf engineer and thinks they have all
> the answers, even when apple themselves haven't completely figured it
> out.

     There is nothing to figure out. The antenna is in a bad 
place. It's around the edge right where people hold it. This 
allows me to figure out a couple of things. Apple rushed the 
iPhone 4 to market without proper testing. They rushed it to 
market to keep up with companies who are putting out phones that 
are more advanced than the iPhone. Apple didn't want to fall 
behind.

>
> in short, there are a lot of variables that can affect reception,
> antenna placement being just one.

      Exactly, Apple put it in the wrong place.

>
>> Consumer Reports and others have shown there
>> is a hardware issue. The funny thing was Apple's first response
>> to the problem that consisted of "You're not holding it right!"
>
> apple is not handling this particularly well. they should have said 'we
> are working on it and will have more info to follow.'

      I agree. Apple tries to keep the image that their products 
are better by design. This was actually true years ago. I 
remember an Apple user who was clueless who told me that Apple 
computers are "engineered" when computers from other companies 
are not. These other computers are just slapped together from 
OEM parts. Apple's own marketing strategy is what leads people 
to believe this silly notion and Apple doesn't want to part from 
that. Apple's quality has gone way down in the last ten years 
but they remain successful by keeping up the illusion that their 
products are unique and better.

John