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Article #52Re: No Activation Required at Best Buy?
From: mikegold
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 21:37
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 21:37
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Care to cite the statute that makes this illegal? "Michael Yermian" <myermian00@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uusolj88fd5g1a@corp.supernews.com... > Umm, no ... it IS illegal... It is NOTHING like buying a car and > installing an after market sound system... what your comparing is like > purchasing a Nokia 3360 and then changing the face plate or getting a > flashing battery ... whoopdie doo. Your analogies are way off... next > time make sure the little wheels in your head are spinning before you > comment on something you obviously know nothing about... > > -- > Michael Y. > > > "Nokia Freak 816" <dmays2@kc.rr.com> wrote in article > <3uoH9.32914$Xr6.379336@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>: > > it is not illegal to buy a locked phone .then unlock it for another > > provider..there is no law agaist it..thats your phone...u paid for it...you > > own it..thats like saying u got a new car..then them saying you cant put > > after market sound system... UNLOCKING is legal..its your property..no > > matter what provider it was ment for.... > > "Michael Yermian" <myermian00@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:uur0042ienptd7@corp.supernews.com... > > > Troll?? > > > > > > If they aren't really ~200+ dollars of cost, then why are unlocked > > > phones so expensive?? > > > > > > Do you really think that selling a phone for $25 will gain them profit?? > > > I'm not saying don't buy one. Obviously you have no idea what the > > > context of the post was... it wasn't about purchaing a phone without > > > activation ... it was about purchasing it without activation so that the > > > person could UNLOCK it and use it on another network! Upgrading is LEGAL > > > .. that is why they sell the phones for $25 ... because they are > > > reimbursed for their loss by ATTWS ... why? Because the customers stay > > > happy when they walk out with a new phone for $25! > > > > > > You say that if they are dumb enough to sell it then everyone should get > > > one? Fine, go ahead... noone is stopping you, but the point I was making > > > was that it is unethical and ILLEGAL to purchase it to merely unlock the > > > phone... it is called FRAUD moron. > > > > > > Haven't you ever heard of the phrase "Give the razors for free, make the > > > money on the blades?" ... duh, its the same thing here. They lose money > > > on a lot of phones they sell, but make up for that with a monthly > > > subscription! > > > > > > Video games function the same way... XBox sold its units for less than > > > the cost to make them! They ate the cost... you know why!? Because they > > > make money on the games! NOT THE FREAKIN UNITS... now what happens when > > > someone decides to NOT purchase ANY games at all, but rather to MOD > > > their XBox and download every game... that means Microsoft just lost > > > money on a unit and didn't make the profit back... SAME SITUATION HERE! > > > If you aren't a customer or don't plan to be one, then why purchase the > > > phone!? So you can Illegally use it on another network? Geez... why > > > don't you read the entire thread before ranting off at me. So why don't > > > >>YOU<< go elsewhere... TROLL! > > > > > > -- > > > Michael Y. > > > > > > > > > "Nokia Freak 816" <dmays2@kc.rr.com> wrote in article > > > <wQbH9.39742$ry.373879@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>: > > > > hey u pay for it..its your to do what ever the hell you want with > > it...if > > > > there dumb enough to sell the phone to somebody with out > > activating..then i > > > > say everybody that wants one go for it..come on...everybody knows it > > dont > > > > cost 200+ to make a phone when there thousands and thousands of every > > model > > > > being made...if it really was like that...hardly anybody would be able > > to > > > > afford them..like back in 80's and 90's...like i said if there going to > > sell > > > > the phone with out activation...i would buy one if i like the model..so > > go > > > > away troll > > > > "Michael Yermian" <myermian00@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:uuqegt2pbub498@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > So lemme get this straight.... > > > > > Best Buy made profit on the "marked" up Nokia 8265 that they sold for > > > > > $25? > > > > > Did they make profit on the times they sold the Pan310 for $30? How > > > > > about that N8260 for $25? SE T61LX for a penny --How do you mark that > > > > > up?? > > > > > > > > > > WRONG! They don't make profit on phones, and if they did it isn't THAT > > > > > big (unless it is a Sprint phone) ... the real money is in commission > > > > > for activating or upgrading your phone. > > > > > > > > > > And the last user wasn't talking about FRAUD for purchasing a phone > > for > > > > > upgrade... the initial post of the user was on how to buy a subsadized > > > > > phone at a low cost so he can unlock it himself (FRAUD!) and use it on > > > > > another system... > > > > > > > > > > I supposed that "burn outs" aren't bad either right? They only hurt > > the > > > > > company a little bit right? Heck, while we are at it, if anyone wants > > > > > to, lets explain how to steal cable for free or even Satellite TV? > > > > > Anyone figure out a way how to get free cable modem? > > > > > > > > > > If cell phones are really that cheap then you should be able to buy an > > > > > UNLOCKED phone for a nice price, NOT $300+ ... > > > > > > > > > > If you REALLY want an unlocked phone, why not purchase it LEGALLY?? I > > > > > guess cost is an issue, so it is ok if a BIG company pays the rest for > > > > > you right? You pay $100 and they'll take care of the other $100+ ?? I > > > > > mean they'll make money on the service -- oh wait, your not activating > > > > > it with them! FUN! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Michael Y. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Nokia Freak 816" <dmays2@kc.rr.com> wrote in article > > > > > <5%8H9.21700$Fi7.332224@twister.kc.rr.com>: > > > > > > every retail store jacks the price up atleast 35%...do you think > > stores > > > > > > would sell for cell phone companies if they werent making the profit > > > > from > > > > > > that price stated..no > > > > > > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:3decbd52$0$22216$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com... > > > > > > > Why is that beating the system? The Ad says no activation > > required, > > > > than > > > > > > > that is that. I suspect these phones are hugely discounted due to > > > > > > inventory > > > > > > > volume and perhaps new models in the pipeline. They are just > > hoping > > > > that > > > > > > > you will get AT&T service (and the fact the phone is locked). > > There > > > > is > > > > > > > nothing stopping you from getting the phone and using it with > > existing > > > > > > > [AT&T] service > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Veldhouse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "KinderCare" <iwi@ffsf.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:te%G9.398$zd1.335578@news.uswest.net... > > > > > > > > Make sure you teach your kids how to beat the system. Sit them > > down > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > table, in fact nows a good time with XMAS and the Holidays > > starting, > > > > and > > > > > > > > just say "Son, this is how its done. Its OK to commit fraud, and > > > > bend > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > rules. Ethics, naw you wont ever use that stuff" You people > > make me > > > > > > ill. > > > > > > > > Same ones who also bitch and holler cause they cant get more > > > > minutes, > > > > > > cant > > > > > > > > get through to customer service etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bunch of friggin clowns. Thanks for reinforcing why I got out of > > > > retail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Nick Hill" <boeingair@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:OIKG9.54949$kz4.2660292@news2.west.cox.net... > > > > > > > > > Coolio, thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David Pivazian" <david@pivazian.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:uumtrh88hq5o76@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > > > > > Nick, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you get Sunday's LA Times and there is a BestBuy > > Ad > > > > inside > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > clear indication that ATT phones are on sale without > > activation > > > > > > > > > requirement > > > > > > > > > > (unless you buy more than one phone.) You can see for > > Cingular > > > > and > > > > > > > > > T-Mobile > > > > > > > > > > phones price tag says "Activation Required." You can get an > > Ad > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > store > > > > > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, it is not a mistake or a misprint or lack of experience > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > clerk, > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is an agreement between ATT and BestBuy for promotional > > sale. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > Los Angeles, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Nick Hill" <boeingair@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:YUpG9.42902$kz4.2176212@news2.west.cox.net... > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you had a happy thanksgiving. Heard somewhere that > > at > > > > > > bestbuy, > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > buy some phones at the subsidized price without activating > > > > them. > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > true? I am in So. Cal., so could I get an 8390 from ATT > > > > there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for your time! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular > > groups] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups] > > > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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