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Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote in
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> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said
>>>> Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>> a_dud <blax@blox.com> said

>>>>>> hey stupid....

>>>>> Waddya want, fucktard?  (this ought to be good....)

>>>> Wanna bet ?

>>>>>> Our Senate is elected by us....

>>>>> No shit Einstein. Care to point out where I said it's not?

>>>>>> we go and vote for it on a piece of paper every 3 years...

>>>>> You only vote for half of it every three years.

>>>> And not necessarily every 3 years either.

>>>>> They serve 6 year terms, fuckwit.

>>>> When there isnt a double dissolution, anyway.

>>>>>> actually theres 2 pieces of paper....one for the
>>>>>> Lower House and one for the Upper House....

>>>>>> we learnt from the Westminister System and the
>>>>>> American System and we got the best of both worlds...

>>>>> Crap. We've got absolutely nothing from the American system.

>>>> Thats just plain wrong. The poms dont have a written constitution,

>>> Yes they do. It's just not written down anywhere.

>> Thats what a written constitution means, fuckwit.

> Nice bit of altering posts there Rod. Pity you're fooling no-one.
> Here's your claim as it was originally posted:
>
> "The poms dont have a constitution"
> No mention of 'written' in there.

Just a typo, fuckwit. The correct form, written
constitution was there in the original post, further down.

>>>> we do. And some parts of ours have been copied
>>>> almost word for word from the yankee one,
>>>> particularly the bit about freedom of religion.

>>> And WTF has that got to do with our political system
>>> and how useless politicians are voted into power.

>> Everything to do with blowing a fucking great
>> hole in your stupid pig ignorant claim that "We've
>> got absolutely nothing from the American system"

> When we were talking about the
> system of voting in governments,

Pity we werent. What was actually being discussed was which
countrys are 'less democratic' you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

> that's  correct.

> Learn the meaning of the word 'context', fuckwit.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out
of your predicament better than that, moron child.

>> Wrong. As always.

>>>> The poms dont even have a written constitution at all.

>>> Correct.

>>>> We have a federal system thats a lot closer
>>>> to the yank system than to the pom system.

>>> Bullshit.

>> Fraid not.

>>> The biggest difference is that we have a Monarch
>>> as head of state who holds  no real power.

>> Thats much less important than the federal system.

>>> We have a Prime Minister as head of
>>> government who actually runs the place.

>> He runs fuck all, and isnt even
>> mentioned in the constitution anyway.

> What's that got to do with who holds power

Wasnt even being discussed.

> and how they are elected

Wasnt even being discussed.

> (which is what the conversation was about, fuckwit)

Obvious lie. What was actually being discussed
was which countrys are 'less democratic'

Try again, child.

>>> The US has a President who is head of state as
>>> well as head of government and has real power.

>> Not much that doesnt have to have the Congress endorse it.

> Wrong again, as always. Ever heard of an executive order?

They can only be used in very limited situation, cretin.

> About the only thing he can't do is pass new laws or
> declare an official war (notice the word 'official' in there)
> Within the current laws he is free to do as he pleases.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

He doesnt even get to appoint anyone he likes as secretary etc.

>>> The only thing we have in common with the
>>> US is that we get to vote on our senators.

>> More pig ignorant bullshit. We have
>> the federal system in common too.

>> And the terminal stupidity where each state gets the same
>> number of senators, regardless of the population of the state.

>> And some of the other constitutional detail too like freedom of religion.

> Which has sweet fuck all to do with voting in government.

Which wasnt even being discussed. Which country is less democratic was.

> (context, Roddles, context.....)

desperate wanking, gutless, desperate wanking...

>> The stupid poms dont even have an elected upper house.

> Which is what I said in the first place.

Nothing like the first place. And you
werent  even the first to say that, fuckwit.

>>>>> We got the British system with the bonus(???) of being
>>>>> able to vote on our upper house representatives.

>>>>>> ours is as close to true representation as u can get...
>>>>>> although others will argue about the State/Senate issue...

>>>>>> oh and the Governor-General, the Queens Representative
>>>>>> only signs off laws to make them legal.

>>>>> Which gives him veto powers over any law introduced by
>>>>> an elected government. Not very democratic, is it, stupid.

>>>>>> He has the power to disband the Government

>>>>> Which has happened before. An unelected official representing
>>>>> a monarch overseas having the power to sack a democratically
>>>>> elected government? Doesn't sound very representative to me.

>>>> Death squad for you then.

>>> It's Australia, not Chile, fuckwit.

>> Wrong. As always. Cretin.

>>>>>> only when a serious issue arrises and both houses
>>>>>> don't agree...aka Supply of Money....etc...after that
>>>>>> by law an election MUST be held within a short time....

>>>>>> just to clear up a few facts about u uneducated
>>>>>> lot on the other side of the world who dont much
>>>>>> read up on other countries and their systems....

>>>>> Unlike you, you illiterate fuckwit, who cant
>>>>> even follow a thread and make any sense of it.

>>>> Does that make it threadbare ?

>>> Brain-bare more like.

>> No such animal, cretin.

>>>> Threadbear would be much better.

>>> Or Deadbear?

>> Down, child.

>>>>>> with the Internet around these days and search
>>>>>> functions...it does make you stupid in one way.

>>>>> So does not being able to read a usenet header
>>>>> and know that I am in Australia, you fuckwit.

>>>> Bit hard to do that with your head up a threadbear's arse.

>>> Yep. It's an idiot.