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On Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:46:57 GMT, "D" <dominic@brolib.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>Hi, 
>Can Anyone tell me if the internal USR X2 Winmodems are ISA or PCI cards?
>
ISA. I've got one lying around gathering dust if you are thinking of
purchasing.
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ISA. I don't know of any PCI modems (yet)

D wrote in message <01bd5cab$778c7a60$57e5989e@CENTRALL>...
>Hi,
>Can Anyone tell me if the internal USR X2 Winmodems are ISA or PCI cards?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dominic
>
>-wouldn't the World  be a better place without computers?!?!?!
>

>ISA. I don't know of any PCI modems (yet)
>


Can anyone tell me why there are no PCI modems yet? Is it a tech reason
why not? I have 2 spare PCI slots and all my ISA ones are full.. Sigh..
-- 
Graham Cooper

Graham Cooper (gray@gcelect.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Can anyone tell me why there are no PCI modems yet? Is it a tech reason
: why not? I have 2 spare PCI slots and all my ISA ones are full.. Sigh..

Very simple.  An ISA slot card can be installed in *any* PC.  A PCI slot
card can only go in a PC with a PCI bus.  This eliminates sales to those
who don't have PCI bus slots, such as simple ISA motherboards, EISA and
VESA bus systems.

Larry

In article <R2U77IAmzYI1EwNz@gcelect.demon.co.uk>
           gray@gcelect.demon.co.uk "Graham Cooper" writes:

> >ISA. I don't know of any PCI modems (yet)
> 
> Can anyone tell me why there are no PCI modems yet? Is it a tech reason
> why not? I have 2 spare PCI slots and all my ISA ones are full.. Sigh..

Only that for the miserable speed a modem needs it is a waste of 
a fast PCi slot. Why not use a fast serial port and ext modem.
I prefer to see real LED's blinking myself.

Regards,
-- 
Martin Brown  <martin@nezumi.demon.co.uk>     __                CIS: 71651,470
Scientific Software Consultancy             /^,,)__/

One reason I've heard is that a modem doesn't need the strength of a PCI
bus. When something has to be developed for a new bus, it costs money. It
took a couple of years to work out how to make a PCI sound card. But with
surround sound and the like, these are said to be worth it. Intel is making
a move to get rid of the ISA bus by 1999 (ha) soI imagine we'll see some PCI
modems in about 12 months...

Graham Cooper wrote in message ...
>
>>ISA. I don't know of any PCI modems (yet)
>>
>
>
>Can anyone tell me why there are no PCI modems yet? Is it a tech reason
>why not? I have 2 spare PCI slots and all my ISA ones are full.. Sigh..
>--
>Graham Cooper

I have one installed right now.  http://www.aztech.com.sg/56kpci.htm
Freed up a needed ISA slot.  Works just fine.  Got mine at www.onsale.com
for $44 and $12 two-day shipping.


Graham Cooper wrote in message ...
>
>>ISA. I don't know of any PCI modems (yet)
>>
>
>
>Can anyone tell me why there are no PCI modems yet? Is it a tech reason
>why not? I have 2 spare PCI slots and all my ISA ones are full.. Sigh..
>--
>Graham Cooper

no that not ture there is a EISA this used with very the Old Network Server
they come 2, 4, 8 Port modem, VESA some go with this to but only come 2,4
port, you can Buy PCI Modem that if you got Big Bucks $$$$$$$$$ like Bill
Gates

Larry Mintz wrote in message <6fs86o$a90$1@news1.mnsinc.com>...
>Graham Cooper (gray@gcelect.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>: Can anyone tell me why there are no PCI modems yet? Is it a tech reason
>: why not? I have 2 spare PCI slots and all my ISA ones are full.. Sigh..
>
>Very simple.  An ISA slot card can be installed in *any* PC.  A PCI slot
>card can only go in a PC with a PCI bus.  This eliminates sales to those
>who don't have PCI bus slots, such as simple ISA motherboards, EISA and
>VESA bus systems.
>
>Larry

This was written by SHS in demon.tech.modems...
|> no that not ture there is a EISA this used with very the Old Network Server
|> they come 2, 4, 8 Port modem, VESA some go with this to but only come 2,4
|> port, you can Buy PCI Modem that if you got Big Bucks $$$$$$$$$ like Bill
|> Gates

	Er, pardon? In English, please.
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There is no need. However if you and 11 of your neighbors split a T1
on your block you will need a PCI type interface to handle the 64k
comin down the line.

BTW.  hayes had a 16 bit card for their early 28.8 modems. Why waste a
PCI slot on a 8 bit or 16 bit device
>
>I have one installed right now.  http://www.aztech.com.sg/56kpci.htm
>Freed up a needed ISA slot.  Works just fine.  Got mine at www.onsale.com
>for $44 and $12 two-day shipping.
>
>
>Graham Cooper wrote in message ...
>>
>>>ISA. I don't know of any PCI modems (yet)
>>>
>>
>>
>>Can anyone tell me why there are no PCI modems yet? Is it a tech reason
>>why not? I have 2 spare PCI slots and all my ISA ones are full.. Sigh..
>>--
>>Graham Cooper
>
>

On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 05:50:39 GMT, modem@man.com wrote:


>BTW.  hayes had a 16 bit card for their early 28.8 modems. Why waste a
>PCI slot on a 8 bit or 16 bit device

For the lower processor overhead.
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Dave wrote in message <352b7696.50502@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>...
>On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 05:50:39 GMT, modem@man.com wrote:
>
>
>>BTW.  hayes had a 16 bit card for their early 28.8 modems. Why waste a
>>PCI slot on a 8 bit or 16 bit device
>
>For the lower processor overhead.



One doesn't need a PCI bus just to lower processor overhead & in any case,
just because it's a PCI device doesn't mean it's bus master or DMA or
anything. For the record, I've got an intelligent ISA comms card here on my
desk which I'm going to evaluate soon that contains a co-processor to handle
all modem<>UART communications & transfer the result into memory by DMA.
Theoretically it should lower processor utilization and completely eliminate
errors. I'm hoping that this will smooth out quake2 a little.

I'll keep you posted.

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from any advise given by myself. Take care!

Duncan Corps <fwei@clues.com> wrote in article
<6gd8ea$jht$1@basil.clues.com>...
> This was written by SHS in demon.tech.modems...
> |> no that not ture there is a EISA this used with very the Old Network
Server
> |> they come 2, 4, 8 Port modem, VESA some go with this to but only come
2,4
> |> port, you can Buy PCI Modem that if you got Big Bucks $$$$$$$$$ like
Bill
> |> Gates
> 
> 	Er, pardon? In English, please.

Multiport PCI modems are expensive.

Not that we were even on about multi ported modems.

TB

modem@man.com wrote in article <3529ad53.195679392@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
> There is no need. However if you and 11 of your neighbors split a T1
> on your block you will need a PCI type interface to handle the 64k
> comin down the line.

You won't need a PCI card to handle 64kb/s - ISA network cards handle over
a megabyte a second.

If you're lucky.

TB