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Article #160Re: Intel or AMD?
From: Tony Hill
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 22:37
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 22:37
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On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:32:11 +0200, "Ari Oppenheimer" <ak79@iafrica.com> wrote: >I've noticed that the new AMD Proccessors are call XP 1600, XP 1700, XP 1800 >etc, but the actual speed of the XP 1600 for example is only 1.4 GHz. > >Now does this compare to a P4 1.6Ghz or a P4 1.4Ghz. It's more or less comperable to a P4 at 1.8GHz in most applications. > Also, consider the fact >the the P4 runs at a 400Mhz bus. To me it seems as if Intel comes out as the >sure winner over here. After all it seems as if P4 1.6Ghz is better than AMD >1.4Ghz,. The P4 also has only an 8K L1 data cache and ~21K L1 instruction cache vs. 64K of both for the AMD chips, and the P4 has a very long pipeline which takes longer to recover from branch misprediction, and the P4 has fewer execution units for both integer and floating point, etc. etc. Long story short, there is a LOT to consider here. What AMD did with their new model number system is to exchange one meaningless measure of performance (clock speed) with another meaningless measure of performance (model number). If you want to know how fast one chip will be as compared to another, you're best bet is to check for benchmarks that closely relate to what you use your computer for most. Here's some links to a few recent benchmarks: http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1543 http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000277 >Please let me know if my deduction is right, or should I go for the AMD As you can probably see from the above benchmarks, there is no clear-cut winner for every single application out there, in some cases even the slowest AthlonXPs beat out the very fastest P4s, while in other applications the opposite is true. It should also be pointed out that the processor is only one part of the system, and often a relatively small part when it comes to actual performance. If you look at this article: http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000212 You can see that the type of memory used and the motherboard chipset can have a very serious impact on performance (though the above is probably the most extreme case of this). Video cards can also have a tremendous impact on performance, particularly for games and for workstation-type 3D graphics. Hard drive performance is also extremely important in determining how fast your system will be, and even things like network cards and sound cards have an impact on the overall system speed.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f7ef8,194263e8a2de4d52 X-Google-Attributes: gidf7ef8,public X-Google-Thread: 10a574,194263e8a2de4d52 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a574,public X-Google-Thread: f5f89,194263e8a2de4d52 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5f89,public X-Google-Thread: 112149,194263e8a2de4d52 X-Google-Attributes: gid112149,public X-Google-Thread: 1045b9,194263e8a2de4d52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1045b9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-16 14:36:59 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!hub1.nntpserver.com!peer1-sjc1.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!news03.bloor.is!news2.bloor.is.POSTED!12dc6cf53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Tony Hill <hilla@uoguelph.ca> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,it.comp.hardware.cpu Subject: Re: Intel or AMD? Message-ID: <i6979uc0qf7egp4piqctpr72om8fop8p3i@4ax.com> References: <3c9213fc.0@news1.mweb.co.za> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 53 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 22:37:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.157.131.238 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: news2.bloor.is 1016318229 24.157.131.238 (Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:37:09 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:37:09 EST