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Article #161Re: Intel or AMD?
From: Skid
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:48
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:48
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Hey bub, where do you get off tryng to inject common sense into a perfectly good flamebait thread? ;>) "Tony Hill" <hilla@uoguelph.ca> wrote in message news:i6979uc0qf7egp4piqctpr72om8fop8p3i@4ax.com... > On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:32:11 +0200, "Ari Oppenheimer" > <ak79@iafrica.com> wrote: > >I've noticed that the new AMD Proccessors are call XP 1600, XP 1700, XP 1800 > >etc, but the actual speed of the XP 1600 for example is only 1.4 GHz. > > > >Now does this compare to a P4 1.6Ghz or a P4 1.4Ghz. > > It's more or less comperable to a P4 at 1.8GHz in most applications. > > > Also, consider the fact > >the the P4 runs at a 400Mhz bus. To me it seems as if Intel comes out as the > >sure winner over here. After all it seems as if P4 1.6Ghz is better than AMD > >1.4Ghz,. > > The P4 also has only an 8K L1 data cache and ~21K L1 instruction cache > vs. 64K of both for the AMD chips, and the P4 has a very long pipeline > which takes longer to recover from branch misprediction, and the P4 > has fewer execution units for both integer and floating point, etc. > etc. Long story short, there is a LOT to consider here. > > What AMD did with their new model number system is to exchange one > meaningless measure of performance (clock speed) with another > meaningless measure of performance (model number). If you want to > know how fast one chip will be as compared to another, you're best bet > is to check for benchmarks that closely relate to what you use your > computer for most. Here's some links to a few recent benchmarks: > > http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1543 > http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000277 > > > >Please let me know if my deduction is right, or should I go for the AMD > > As you can probably see from the above benchmarks, there is no > clear-cut winner for every single application out there, in some cases > even the slowest AthlonXPs beat out the very fastest P4s, while in > other applications the opposite is true. > > It should also be pointed out that the processor is only one part of > the system, and often a relatively small part when it comes to actual > performance. If you look at this article: > > http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000212 > > You can see that the type of memory used and the motherboard chipset > can have a very serious impact on performance (though the above is > probably the most extreme case of this). Video cards can also have a > tremendous impact on performance, particularly for games and for > workstation-type 3D graphics. Hard drive performance is also > extremely important in determining how fast your system will be, and > even things like network cards and sound cards have an impact on the > overall system speed. >
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