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Mark Blake <joeblake@L7.net> wrote in message news:b07t7t8tuudrc4565k0vbc1esofa8ek29j@4ax.com...
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Mark Blake <joeblake@L7.net> wrote
>>> Ray <ray181@mailandnews.com_SPAM>, wrote

>>>> isnt it just     echo "atz" > com2:

>>> thanks Ray for reading between the lines in what was my obvious cry
>>> for help. in other words please remind me what the command is :-)

>>> it is an interesting one to know

>> Useless today, the world's moved on.

>>> and a damn sight easier than teaching someone who cant find
>>> the write (sic) click button how to find and use hypertermininal

>> You have to teach them to use a DOS window instead.

> thats not so hard,  click start , run, type command,
> click OK now type exactly what i say.

Hyperterminal is even easier, they already know how to launch a Win
app and just need to be told how to tell it to use a COM port directly.

And its more capable than the DOS pipe too.

>> Pity its useless in a situation where hyperteminal is available because
>> DUN will override it when it does the modem setup on dialout.

> i wasnt alluding to using dos to insert a string to the
> modem becuase of course DUN starts off with &F

So the DOS pipe is useless in that situation being discussed. And
no real use in any Win9x installation either. Its only really useful in
a DOS machine which doesnt have a DOS terminal program.

> hyperterminal is different kettle of fish when talking to some real novices.

In theory, yes. In practice is no more difficult to explain how
to use hyperterminal to talk to a com port directly than it is
to tell someone how to drop to DOS in a Win9x machine.

> especially when in so many systems hyperterminal
> is not even installed.  so first you got to get it installed
> then walk them through the setup.  that takes so long.

Wild exaggeration.

> that DOS pipe is something quick and easy.

And useless in the situation being discussed. Hyperterminal is
rather more useful if installing the modem using the standard
Win9x driver still doesnt see DUN getting any response from
the modem. Hyperterminal can be used to see if the AT is
being sent, if the modem responds to it, if Hyperterminal sees
the response. If hyperterminal does see the response and DUN
doesnt, very likely DUN is broken and needs to be reinstalled.

And since the modem is reinstalled anyway, no big deal to install
hyperterminal too. Its handy for other stuff like the after call stats
etc which are also useful once the modem does dial out.

> the easy test b4 going to Hyperterminal is to ask the person
> what time does it show on their video recorder and/or microwave
> if they say its 12.00 and flashing then you have no chance in
> hell of teaching them hyperterminal inside an hour :-)

Wota silly wanker you are Blake. Its just as easy to teach them
how to use hyperterminal on a specified com port as that DOS
pipe. And there is more that they can do once they've done it too.

The DOS pipe is useless on a Win9x system today, the world's moved on.