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Re: Install win xp over a network

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:58
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Some Guy <Some@Guy.com> wrote in message
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> David Maynard wrote

>>> The fact of the matter is that the main
>>> benefit of TCP/IP is that it's routable..

>> Ain't no 'little' thing.

> -------------
> NetBEUI (NetBIOS Extended User Interface) is a new,
> extended version of NetBIOS lets computers communicate
> within a local area network.  NetBEUI is the best performance
> choice for communication within a single LAN.

Mindless pig ignorant drivel.

> It does not support the routing of messages to other networks.

So its well past its useby date now.

> It is recommended to install both NetBEUI and TCP/IP in each
> computer and set the server up to use NetBEUI for communication
> within the LAN and TCP/IP for communication beyond the LAN.

Only by pig ignorant uniwankers that dont have a fucking clue.

> http://cob.bloomu.edu/afundaburk/personal/NBEA%20-%20Let's%20Go%20Wireless%20Presentation.ppt
> -----------

> Look people.

Get fucked, animal.

> Microsoft has a single over-riding agenda -
> to make money (like most corporations).

Nothing what so ever to do with dropping NETBEUI.

> However, their main product (desktop OS's)
> aren't like most consumer goods (ie like a car).

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist fuckwits ?

> How do you know when an OS is "worn out" ?

It doesnt do what you want to do as well as a better OS, fuckwit.

> Well, for Microsoft (which is really (in the real world) the only
> game in town when it comes to OS's) they can call the shots
> to some degree by forcing the obselence of older os's by forcing
> certain new technologies into the market (the migration from
> Win-95 to Win-98 was coaxed by such things as USB and FAT-32).

Utterly mindless pig ignorant conspiracy theory.

The reality is that extra stuff is added as it become
useful, FAT32 when the limitations of FAT16 become
a significant limitation as hard drives get bigger etc.

With USB support, it was completely redone with Win98 and
as a result of that works a lot better than it ever did with Win95.

> This is really just another way to say that a good deal of the
> claimed differences between different versions of Windows
> is marketing bullshit designed to instill a degree of psycological
> bias against the older OS.  It creates a notion that the older
> OS is "worn out" in an almost physical way.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever had a 
fucking clue.

Have fun explaining how come even Linux keeps adding extra capability.

> The other aspect of what Microsoft does is to gear Windows first
> and formost towards their best paying customer - that being large
> corporations (and the gov't).  They want work-station security, they
> want (need) routable protocals, they want remote administration
> capability, they want permission-based user hirarchies.  So Windows
> (2K and XP) comes "out of the box" with all sorts of services and
> ports configured as active by default.

Because more and more personal users need that stuff, most
obviously with multiple users per PC and multiple PCs per house etc.

> Which leads to the next point:

> Microsoft values reducing the need for customer
> support far more than workstation security.

And thats what most personal desktop users want too, fuckwit.

> The default settings for 2K and XP are set to be most
> appropriate for a large corporation (with IT staff and fire-wall).

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever had a 
fucking clue.

> For the small company or home user, XP is (and
> was) a disaster in terms of viral and trojan infections.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever had a 
fucking clue.

> What's this got to do with NetBEUI vs TCP/IP?

Nothing.

> It's Microsoft's "keep it simple stupid" mentality.

Wrong. NETBEUI is much simpler than TCP/IP, if they
actually did go for simplicity, they'd have kept it, stupid.

> If TCP will work everywhere on a network (large, small, across routers, etc)

And hordes of personal systems have that stuff now, stupid.

> then it becomes the default protocal and bye bye NetBEUI.

Its a protocol, not a 'protocal', you pig ignorant clown.

> It will mean fewer support calls for MS from fortune 500 companies.

They dont do support that way, fuckwit.

> It doesn't mean NetBEUI is bad or inferior

It is anyway.

> (it seems it may have a performance edge on small networks vs TCP,

Wrong.

> and it certainly has a security edge over TCP).

Wrong.

> It just means MS made a decision motivated by making their life simpler.

Wrong.

> I'm sure a big part of it was to force some degree of incompatibility
> between exiting networks (with NT4 servers) which would force
> those systems into the garbage in favor of XP-pro.

Yet another utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

> It's funny how jaded we all pretty much are towards Microsoft the
> corporate pirahna fish that they are, how they use strong-arm tactics
> to kill competition, yet we let their mantra of OS obselescence sink
> into our heads exactly according to their plan.

Yet another utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

>> Remove it and you've got an antiquated, severely limited, protocol.

> As if TCP/IP isin't "antiquated".

Pathetic, really. 
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Subject: Re: Install  win xp over a network
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