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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> From: "Rod Speed" <rod_speed yahoo.com>
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> Subject: Re: Install  win xp over a network
> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:58:50 +1000
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> Some Guy <Some@Guy.com> wrote in message
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>> David Maynard wrote
> 
>>>> The fact of the matter is that the main
>>>> benefit of TCP/IP is that it's routable..
> 
>>> Ain't no 'little' thing.
> 
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>> NetBEUI (NetBIOS Extended User Interface) is a new,
>> extended version of NetBIOS lets computers communicate
>> within a local area network.  NetBEUI is the best performance
>> choice for communication within a single LAN.
> 
> Mindless pig ignorant drivel.
> 
>> It does not support the routing of messages to other networks.
> 
> So its well past its useby date now.
> 
>> It is recommended to install both NetBEUI and TCP/IP in each
>> computer and set the server up to use NetBEUI for communication
>> within the LAN and TCP/IP for communication beyond the LAN.
> 
> Only by pig ignorant uniwankers that dont have a fucking clue.
> 
>> http://cob.bloomu.edu/afundaburk/personal/NBEA%20-%20Let's%20Go%20Wireless%20Presentation.ppt
>> -----------
> 
>> Look people.
> 
> Get fucked, animal.
> 
>> Microsoft has a single over-riding agenda -
>> to make money (like most corporations).
> 
> Nothing what so ever to do with dropping NETBEUI.
> 
>> However, their main product (desktop OS's)
>> aren't like most consumer goods (ie like a car).
> 
> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist fuckwits ?
> 
>> How do you know when an OS is "worn out" ?
> 
> It doesnt do what you want to do as well as a better OS, fuckwit.
> 
>> Well, for Microsoft (which is really (in the real world) the only
>> game in town when it comes to OS's) they can call the shots
>> to some degree by forcing the obselence of older os's by forcing
>> certain new technologies into the market (the migration from
>> Win-95 to Win-98 was coaxed by such things as USB and FAT-32).
> 
> Utterly mindless pig ignorant conspiracy theory.
> 
> The reality is that extra stuff is added as it become
> useful, FAT32 when the limitations of FAT16 become
> a significant limitation as hard drives get bigger etc.
> 
> With USB support, it was completely redone with Win98 and
> as a result of that works a lot better than it ever did with Win95.
> 
>> This is really just another way to say that a good deal of the
>> claimed differences between different versions of Windows
>> is marketing bullshit designed to instill a degree of psycological
>> bias against the older OS.  It creates a notion that the older
>> OS is "worn out" in an almost physical way.
> 
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever had a 
> fucking clue.
> 
> Have fun explaining how come even Linux keeps adding extra capability.
> 
>> The other aspect of what Microsoft does is to gear Windows first
>> and formost towards their best paying customer - that being large
>> corporations (and the gov't).  They want work-station security, they
>> want (need) routable protocals, they want remote administration
>> capability, they want permission-based user hirarchies.  So Windows
>> (2K and XP) comes "out of the box" with all sorts of services and
>> ports configured as active by default.
> 
> Because more and more personal users need that stuff, most
> obviously with multiple users per PC and multiple PCs per house etc.
> 
>> Which leads to the next point:
> 
>> Microsoft values reducing the need for customer
>> support far more than workstation security.
> 
> And thats what most personal desktop users want too, fuckwit.
> 
>> The default settings for 2K and XP are set to be most
>> appropriate for a large corporation (with IT staff and fire-wall).
> 
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever had a 
> fucking clue.
> 
>> For the small company or home user, XP is (and
>> was) a disaster in terms of viral and trojan infections.
> 
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever had a 
> fucking clue.
> 
>> What's this got to do with NetBEUI vs TCP/IP?
> 
> Nothing.
> 
>> It's Microsoft's "keep it simple stupid" mentality.
> 
> Wrong. NETBEUI is much simpler than TCP/IP, if they
> actually did go for simplicity, they'd have kept it, stupid.
> 
>> If TCP will work everywhere on a network (large, small, across routers, etc)
> 
> And hordes of personal systems have that stuff now, stupid.
> 
>> then it becomes the default protocal and bye bye NetBEUI.
> 
> Its a protocol, not a 'protocal', you pig ignorant clown.
> 
>> It will mean fewer support calls for MS from fortune 500 companies.
> 
> They dont do support that way, fuckwit.
> 
>> It doesn't mean NetBEUI is bad or inferior
> 
> It is anyway.
> 
>> (it seems it may have a performance edge on small networks vs TCP,
> 
> Wrong.
> 
>> and it certainly has a security edge over TCP).
> 
> Wrong.
> 
>> It just means MS made a decision motivated by making their life simpler.
> 
> Wrong.
> 
>> I'm sure a big part of it was to force some degree of incompatibility
>> between exiting networks (with NT4 servers) which would force
>> those systems into the garbage in favor of XP-pro.
> 
> Yet another utterly mindless conspiracy theory.
> 
>> It's funny how jaded we all pretty much are towards Microsoft the
>> corporate pirahna fish that they are, how they use strong-arm tactics
>> to kill competition, yet we let their mantra of OS obselescence sink
>> into our heads exactly according to their plan.
> 
> Yet another utterly mindless conspiracy theory.
> 
>>> Remove it and you've got an antiquated, severely limited, protocol.
> 
>> As if TCP/IP isin't "antiquated".
> 
> Pathetic, really. 
> 
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