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Article #3590Re: OEM BIOS update vs. Intel
From: Lonsway
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:46
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:46
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No, I'm not afraid to mess with this BIOS, really!!! Ben, extremely informative note. Could I bother you for more input? -When you refer to making the mobo useless, are you saying I couldn't even recover it with a boot disk and earlier version? -Any input on the following BIOS recovery procedure provided in another response? Is this what you refer to by "hacking" into the BIOS? http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/standardbios.htm#6 As far as why I'm updating, I have an Intel revision list detailing 01-09. Many changes along the way. Most compelling: 07 and above support HDs> 8.4gb and the CPU upgrade I plan to install reportedly has issues with DT05. Additionally, I would like to discontinue the use of the OnTrack disk overlay as part of my continual process-of-elimination when troubleshooting other problems I'm experiencing. Lastly, I am assuming the Micron version corresponds with Intel's version. I have verified my current 03DT05 does not support HDs over 8.4gb. I've sent Micron a note asking them to clarify. Thanks for the feedback. -Pat "Ben Myers" <benmyers@ultranet.com> wrote in message news:3a9e5f1e.1494069@news.ma.ultranet.com... > Here's the story about Intel generic vs. OEM BIOS. Also generic vs. > OEM boards. > > First, Intel assigns a BIOS suffix to each of its OEMs. This enables > Intel to track which motherboards are OEM and which are generic. OEMs > like Micron provide on-going support for any boards bought from Intel, > who rightfully maintains a hands-off policy. Micron's siffix is "5". > > Intel also releases the BIOS in source code form to its OEMs. Some > OEMs like IBM and Dell customize the BIOS extensively with their own > common look and feel, but the guts of the BIOS remains essentially the > same. Other OEMs like Micron, Gateway and the lamentable Packard-Bell > do no real BIOS customization at all, except for a bitmap logo > constructed with standard Intel developer tools (I've flashed some > motherboards with my own bitmaps). > > Rarely is there any physical or electronic difference between OEM and > generic motherboards of the same model. The differences boil down to > optional features like on-board sound or not. In some cases, Intel > builds a "special" motherboard with a special BIOS for one of its > OEMs. The "special" motherboard is simply a variation of a > standardized motherboard design with its own unique BIOS identifier. > > This approach to motherboard production enables Intel to produce > motherboards cost effectively for its OEMs. If Intel had to engineer > truly special motherboard designs for its OEMs, the cost to do so > would be outrageous. > > Unfortunately, the only way around flashing the DT0 BIOS onto your > DT05 motherboard involves hacking the BIOS, as far as I know. IFLASH > checks the entire BIOS identification to make sure you are flashing > the right motherboard BIOS with the right OEM suffix onto your board. > This is a reasonable safeguard. If you have a programmer's text > editor or some other tool, you can try to change all occurances of > DT05 to DT0_ in the flash BIOS files. BUT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY AND > POSITIVELY ON YOUR OWN IF YOU TRY THIS. You run the risk of messing > up the board and making it useless. Have a flash recovery diskette > for the DT05 BIOS handy should you attempt to do this. > > You might try executing IFLASH from the DOS prompt with either no > command line parameters or the quasi-standard /h or /? to see if it > gives you some options like forcing an image onto the board. > > Flash BIOS software for earlier Intel motherboards actually had a way > to force flash the BIOS, avoiding any cross-checking of BIOS IDs. > > Good luck! My recommendation? Stick with 1.00.03.DT05. Do you see > any compelling features described in the REL_NOTE.DOC for 1.00.09.DT0_ > ? Do you have any assurance that 1.00.09.DT0_ is NEWER than > 1.00.03.DT05 ? Did you think that Intel does not require its OEMs to > follow the same BIOS revision numbering scheme that Intel follows for > its generic boards? Just a few questions... Ben Myers > > > "Lonsway" <lonsway@home.com> wrote: > > >I am trying to update the BIOS on my Micron XRU PII 266mhz with the Intel > >PD440FX motherboard. I'm currently running ver 1.00.03.DT05 which is the > >most recent update offered by Micron. I was able to flash this without a > >problem. > > > >Intel offers ver 1.00.09.DT0_ for the board but I cannot get it to complete > >the flash process. I get an L05 error about not being able to initiate > >erase. Intel's sight indicates their updates may not work on OEM boards. > >Both updates use IFLASH. > > > >Any workarounds for how I can the the Intel version to flash? Does the DT0_ > >vs. the DT05 designation have any meaning? Any help would be appreciated. > >Thanks. > > > > >
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