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Started by muzician21
Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:56
Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: muzician21
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:56
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Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores and to whatever the current fastest processors are? Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the history of processors to present day? Thanks
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: Band
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:33
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"muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core > systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply > Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. > > I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores > and to whatever the current fastest processors are? > > Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the > history of processors to present day? > > Thanks > Sigh, you're a google grouper who typically doesn't know how to use google. Do a search with these terms: Multi Core dual core vs quad core dual core, gaming Then there is the issues of compatibility - appropriate slot! Cooling, overclocking. Etc Do your own searching.
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: kony
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:16
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:56:09 -0800 (PST), muzician21 <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote: >Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. > >I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >and to whatever the current fastest processors are? > >Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >history of processors to present day? > >Thanks The answer to the question you didn't ask is "yes", if you feel your 2.4GHz is getting slow at the tasks you do, it's worthwhile to upgrade the system or buy a new one.
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: El.Plates
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:42
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"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message news:pb05r4lojl341lnkinskv4a26i3do7laqb@4ax.com... > On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:56:09 -0800 (PST), muzician21 > <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >>systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >>Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >> >>I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >>and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >> >>Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >>history of processors to present day? >> >>Thanks Why don't you try a search engine ? I just tried one (Google) on your behalf. Entering "history of processors to present day" which produced a return of: Results 1 - 10 of about 1,650,000 for history of processors to present day . (0.27 seconds) Why don't you try it as well ?
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: tommy mcc [motz]
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:49
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:49
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"muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core > systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply > Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. > > I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores > and to whatever the current fastest processors are? > > Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the > history of processors to present day? > > Thanks any good A+ certification book will have a history of cpu development depends on how deep you want to go. Michael Meyers A+ book is extremely comprehensive very detailed on all subject matter including cpu history Just make sure you get the latest if you want the latest info here's a free study guide page showing up through the dual cores http://www.mcmcse.com/comptia/aplus/notes/aplus_processors.shtml A+ has 2 parts hardware and software. Cpu history will be in the hardware section -- Tommy
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: Sinner
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:00
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All of you mucking forons could have dropped alt.windows-xp from the address, but........... "Band" <invalid@witheld.invalid> wrote in message news:0tSdneWToLM19C_UnZ2dnUVZ8uGdnZ2d@bt.com... > > "muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >> systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >> Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >> >> I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >> and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >> >> Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >> history of processors to present day? >> >> Thanks >> > > Sigh, you're a google grouper who typically doesn't know > how to use google. > > Do a search with these terms: > Multi Core > dual core vs quad core > dual core, gaming > > Then there is the issues of compatibility - appropriate slot! > Cooling, overclocking. Etc > Do your own searching. > > >
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: sandy58
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:41
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On Mar 7, 12:33 pm, "Band" <inva...@witheld.invalid> wrote: > "muzician21" <muzicia...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > > > Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core > > systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply > > Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. > > > I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores > > and to whatever the current fastest processors are? > > > Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the > > history of processors to present day? > > > Thanks > > Sigh, you're a google grouper who typically doesn't know > how to use google. > > Do a search with these terms: > Multi Core > dual core vs quad core > dual core, gaming > > Then there is the issues of compatibility - appropriate slot! > Cooling, overclocking. Etc > Do your own searching. "Sigh, you're a google grouper who typically doesn't know how to use google." Favourite expression of yours, "strange person". It's maybe just as well you change your name so often, shit-for- brainz. That Troll & UnWise One, Ronnie Kray, Nancy, Ken.......is Barbie Next? Do you have a "gender" problem? Like it's "that day of the month"? Hit out at all "definite" males/females? Jealous? What a prick(less?) cunt you are. I haven't yet seen ONE helpful suggestion issued from your gaping shit-hole you use as a mouth. "Talking shit" takes on a whole new concept after your crap. Don't be a total arsehole ALL your life. Have a day off. :-)
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: El.Plates
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:45
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"sandy58" <aleckie68@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:22ee4793-92d0-46d3-894a-f724f1030398@u1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 7, 12:33 pm, "Band" <inva...@witheld.invalid> wrote: >> "muzician21" <muzicia...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> >> > Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >> > systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >> > Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >> >> > I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >> > and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >> >> > Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >> > history of processors to present day? >> >> > Thanks >> >> Sigh, you're a google grouper who typically doesn't know >> how to use google. >> >> Do a search with these terms: >> Multi Core >> dual core vs quad core >> dual core, gaming >> >> Then there is the issues of compatibility - appropriate slot! >> Cooling, overclocking. Etc >> Do your own searching. > > "Sigh, you're a google grouper who typically doesn't know > how to use google." > Favourite expression of yours, "strange person". > It's maybe just as well you change your name so often, shit-for- > brainz. > That Troll & UnWise One, Ronnie Kray, Nancy, Ken.......is Barbie Next? > Do you have a "gender" problem? Like it's "that day of the month"? Hit > out at all "definite" males/females? Jealous? What a prick(less?) cunt > you are. I haven't yet seen ONE helpful suggestion issued from your > gaping shit-hole you use as a mouth. "Talking shit" takes on a whole > new concept after your crap. Don't be a total arsehole ALL your life. > Have a day off. :-) How's sandy58 today :-)
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: Colon Terminus
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:05
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:05
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"muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core > systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply > Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. > > I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores > and to whatever the current fastest processors are? > > Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the > history of processors to present day? > > Thanks Download, install and run Sisoft SANDRA. You can see a comparison of your systems actual performance versus thousands of other systems. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: sandy58
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:43
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:43
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On Mar 7, 4:45 pm, "El.Plates" <pi...@thebar.com> wrote: > "sandy58" <alecki...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > > news:22ee4793-92d0-46d3-894a-f724f1030398@u1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Mar 7, 12:33 pm, "Band" <inva...@witheld.invalid> wrote: > >> "muzician21" <muzicia...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > > >> > Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core > >> > systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply > >> > Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. > > >> > I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores > >> > and to whatever the current fastest processors are? > > >> > Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the > >> > history of processors to present day? > > >> > Thanks > > >> Sigh, you're a google grouper who typically doesn't know > >> how to use google. > > >> Do a search with these terms: > >> Multi Core > >> dual core vs quad core > >> dual core, gaming > > >> Then there is the issues of compatibility - appropriate slot! > >> Cooling, overclocking. Etc > >> Do your own searching. > > > "Sigh, you're a google grouper who typically doesn't know > > how to use google." > > Favourite expression of yours, "strange person". > > It's maybe just as well you change your name so often, shit-for- > > brainz. > > That Troll & UnWise One, Ronnie Kray, Nancy, Ken.......is Barbie Next? > > Do you have a "gender" problem? Like it's "that day of the month"? Hit > > out at all "definite" males/females? Jealous? What a prick(less?) cunt > > you are. I haven't yet seen ONE helpful suggestion issued from your > > gaping shit-hole you use as a mouth. "Talking shit" takes on a whole > > new concept after your crap. Don't be a total arsehole ALL your life. > > Have a day off. :-) > > How's sandy58 today :-) Me, El Plates? I'm just a lowdown google grouper. <sigh> :-)
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: kony
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:33
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:42:18 -0000, "El.Plates" <pints@thebar.com> wrote: > > >"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message >news:pb05r4lojl341lnkinskv4a26i3do7laqb@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:56:09 -0800 (PST), muzician21 >> <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >>>systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >>>Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >>> >>>I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >>>and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >>> >>>Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >>>history of processors to present day? >>> >>>Thanks > >Why don't you try a search engine ? > I just tried one (Google) on your behalf. Entering "history of processors >to present day" which produced a return of: > Results 1 - 10 of about 1,650,000 for history > >of processors > >to present day > >. (0.27 seconds) > >Why don't you try it as well ? > > I suppose the OP could (Keeping in mind, you replied to the wrong person), but a comprehensive overview of processors seems likely to be scant on details that are relevant, like specifics about how the OP's present CPU fares compared to modern alternatives on the specific jobs the OP needs run.
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: deerslayer
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:48
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:48
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Colon Terminus wrote: > "muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >> systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >> Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >> >> I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >> and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >> >> Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >> history of processors to present day? >> >> Thanks > > > Download, install and run Sisoft SANDRA. > > You can see a comparison of your systems actual performance versus > thousands of other systems. This was an excellent suggestion unlike the several entries prior. The short answer of course is that the 2.4GHz P4 is much slower than dual core CPUs even those at slower clock speeds. SANDRA will show this graphically in its performance module, rating the subject system to average performance of several other CPU types.
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: Sinner
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:37
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This might be a good discussion for alt.comp.hardware, but it's so far off topic in alt.windows-xp as to be wasted bandwidth. I can guarantee that the typical user cannot tell the difference between the speeds of machines running P4's or Dual-Core processors. Word will look equally quick on both. So, quit your fucking cross-posting you stupid moron!!!! "deerslayer" <ds@noemail.com> wrote in message news:TWWsl.13283$9a.9779@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Colon Terminus wrote: >> "muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>> Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >>> systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >>> Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >>> >>> I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >>> and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >>> >>> Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >>> history of processors to present day? >>> >>> Thanks >> >> >> Download, install and run Sisoft SANDRA. >> >> You can see a comparison of your systems actual performance versus >> thousands of other systems. > > This was an excellent suggestion unlike the several entries prior. The > short answer of course is that the 2.4GHz P4 is much slower than dual core > CPUs even those at slower clock speeds. SANDRA will show this graphically > in its performance module, rating the subject system to average > performance of several other CPU types. >
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: kony
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:08
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On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:48:13 -0400, "deerslayer" <ds@noemail.com> wrote: >Colon Terminus wrote: >> "muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>> Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >>> systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >>> Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >>> >>> I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >>> and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >>> >>> Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >>> history of processors to present day? >>> >>> Thanks >> >> >> Download, install and run Sisoft SANDRA. >> >> You can see a comparison of your systems actual performance versus >> thousands of other systems. > >This was an excellent suggestion unlike the several entries prior. The >short answer of course is that the 2.4GHz P4 is much slower than dual core >CPUs even those at slower clock speeds. SANDRA will show this graphically >in its performance module, rating the subject system to average performance >of several other CPU types. > Actually, the short answer is performance always has to be relative to the actual jobs ran, the specific application and version of that app. No benchmark, including Sandra, matters when the actual use can be scrutinized because we're writing directly to the person wondering what best suits their needs.
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: kony
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:16
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On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:37:58 -0400, "Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote: >This might be a good discussion for alt.comp.hardware, but it's so far off >topic in alt.windows-xp as to be wasted bandwidth. I can guarantee that the >typical user cannot tell the difference between the speeds of machines >running P4's or Dual-Core processors. Word will look equally quick on both. > >So, quit your fucking cross-posting you stupid moron!!!! 1) learn to stop top-posting when you are replying to something already written. If you have something that needs no quoting, by all means post the only info at the top, since there is no bottom. 2) You're right, it shouldn't be in alt.windows.xp, but it's not the bandwidth waste that matters as much as the waste of time from the people participating, THEY are the valuable resource. 3) It's not hard to tell t he difference if one uses modern bloated OS and apps, the difference between a 2.4GHz P4 which had long pipes, and a modern dual core CPU. 4) Did anyone claim an upgrade would be to run Word faster? Doubtful, if that was the use there wouldn't be any perception an ungrade was needed. 5) I dislike cross-posting too, but 3 derogatory words in your reply tend to offend and cause rebellion, not encourage the OP towards your intended goal. So ironically, even though you are right, you still fail.
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: Steve
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:30
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"muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core > systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply > Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. > > I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores > and to whatever the current fastest processors are? > > Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the > history of processors to present day? > > Thanks My E7300 dual core is about 6 times quicker than my old system using an AthlonXP 2.4Ghz on pure processing tasks like RAW conversion and video encoding. P4s were only a little quicker generally, so perhaps there's a 5:1 ratio in performance approximately.
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: Sinner
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:46
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"Steve" <sbrads24DELETETHISBIT@ukfsn.org> wrote in message news:gp3n87$v11$1@localhost.localdomain... > > "muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >> systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >> Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >> >> I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >> and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >> >> Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >> history of processors to present day? >> >> Thanks > > My E7300 dual core is about 6 times quicker than my old system using an > AthlonXP 2.4Ghz on pure processing tasks like RAW conversion and video > encoding. P4s were only a little quicker generally, so perhaps there's a > 5:1 ratio in performance approximately. > Stupid Bastard!
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: CBFalconer
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:59
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:59
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kony wrote:
> "Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote:
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> 5) I dislike cross-posting too, but 3 derogatory words in
> your reply tend to offend and cause rebellion, not encourage
> the OP towards your intended goal.
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Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: kony
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:14
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:30:33 -0000, "Steve" <sbrads24DELETETHISBIT@ukfsn.org> wrote: > >"muzician21" <muzician21@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:2b848985-e443-4f11-ae06-b40d51ce5419@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> Trying to understand the breakdown of things as far as dual core >> systems. Things got a little murky for me since it isn't simply >> Pentium -whatever- and an ever higher gig number. >> >> I've got a 2.4 gig P4. How does that compare both to early dual cores >> and to whatever the current fastest processors are? >> >> Is there good a site that shows the breakdown of things as far as the >> history of processors to present day? >> >> Thanks > >My E7300 dual core is about 6 times quicker than my old system using an >AthlonXP 2.4Ghz on pure processing tasks like RAW conversion and video >encoding. P4s were only a little quicker generally, so perhaps there's a >5:1 ratio in performance approximately. > In something like video encoding with modern software and codecs, sure, but you really have to look at the uses. Much legacy software isn't even multithreaded so if one wants the max gains they'll have to spend quite a bit of money on replacing software... the hidden cost to reach performance seen on typical review benchmarks.
Re: Trying to understand dual core processors
Author: muzician21
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:47
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:47
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On Mar 8, 9:37 pm, "Sinner" <sin...@gatesofhell.org> wrote: > This might be a good discussion for alt.comp.hardware, but it's so far off > topic in alt.windows-xp as to be wasted bandwidth. Inasmuch as the apps will be run in Windows XP, it seemed it might be cogent. > I can guarantee that the > typical user cannot tell the difference between the speeds of machines > running P4's or Dual-Core processors. Word will look equally quick on both. > > So, quit your fucking cross-posting you stupid moron!!!! And you're so incensed you figured you'd contribute non-informational screed not once but twice. You apparently consider that a valid use of "bandwidth". And note how effective your self-appointed netkopping is.
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