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AIX versus SUN and Linux, best price performance ?
#1666
Author: Louis
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:07
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Hi,

We have a IBM RS6000 F50 running AIX 4.3.3 with 3 CPU's and 9 mirrored disks
and 1.5 GB internal memory. DBMS Basis 9.1 runs on it. This database can be
compared with Oracle regarding performance. However it's not
multi-threading.

We are thinking of upgrading hardware. The F50 cannot handle the job
anymore. The Basis DBMS runs on AIX, Linux and SUN. Our database will be
around 60 GB and should be spreaded on multiple disks (at least 4). In total
we need at least 10 disks (20-40 GB). We need 2-4 GB memory.

The solution should be cheap but also reliable. So, we prefer cheap memory
and cheap (instead of expensive IBM SSA disks) SCSI or even IDE disks.

Please advise.

Regards,

Louis Banens
Re: AIX versus SUN and Linux, best price performance ?
#1672
Author: John Smith
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:51
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"Louis" <nospam@nospam.nl> schreef in bericht
news:3ee728e8$0$49103$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> Hi,
>
> We have a IBM RS6000 F50 running AIX 4.3.3 with 3 CPU's and 9 mirrored
disks
> and 1.5 GB internal memory. DBMS Basis 9.1 runs on it. This database can
be
> compared with Oracle regarding performance. However it's not
> multi-threading.
>
> We are thinking of upgrading hardware. The F50 cannot handle the job
> anymore. The Basis DBMS runs on AIX, Linux and SUN. Our database will be
> around 60 GB and should be spreaded on multiple disks (at least 4). In
total
> we need at least 10 disks (20-40 GB). We need 2-4 GB memory.
>
> The solution should be cheap but also reliable. So, we prefer cheap memory
> and cheap (instead of expensive IBM SSA disks) SCSI or even IDE disks.
>
> Please advise.
>

Ga voor linux met een nas van network appliance, neem dan wel Gb netwerk
voor je nas.
Re: AIX versus SUN and Linux, best price performance ?
#2483
Author: Arl� Mooldijk
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:50
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"Louis" <nospam@nospam.nl> wrote in message
news:3ee728e8$0$49103$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

> We have a IBM RS6000 F50 running AIX 4.3.3 with 3 CPU's and 9 mirrored
disks
> and 1.5 GB internal memory. DBMS Basis 9.1 runs on it. This database can
be
> compared with Oracle regarding performance. However it's not
> multi-threading.
>
> We are thinking of upgrading hardware. The F50 cannot handle the job
> anymore. The Basis DBMS runs on AIX, Linux and SUN. Our database will be
> around 60 GB and should be spreaded on multiple disks (at least 4). In
total
> we need at least 10 disks (20-40 GB). We need 2-4 GB memory.

Why do you need at least 10 disks? Disks have more storage space these
days...

> The solution should be cheap but also reliable. So, we prefer cheap memory
> and cheap (instead of expensive IBM SSA disks) SCSI or even IDE disks.

Linux is cheap. If it is a serious server then I'd recommend SCSI with a
RAID5 controller for the database storage and a mirrored disk for OS. This
means about 5 disks minimum (3 for RAID5 and 2 for OS). HotSwap if desirable
(but very nice and handy when you can afford it; saves you downtime when a
disk fails). HP/Compaq is a good choice for Intel based servers. The support
of HP is very good (personal experience).

Just my opinion though...

With Kind Regards,
Arl�
Re: AIX versus SUN and Linux, best price performance ?
#2484
Author: Louis
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 23:39
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"Arl� Mooldijk" <reply@to.newsgroup.please> wrote in message
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<<Why do you need at least 10 disks? Disks have more storage space these
<<days...

Well, mainly to spread (I/O) the database over multiple disks.

Regards,

Louis Banens
Re: AIX versus SUN and Linux, best price performance ?
#2482
Author: Frank van de Pol
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:19
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Please don't use RAID-5 in database applications if high performance is 
one of your objectives. Better use RAID-10 (combination of mirroring and 
striping) at the expense of 50% diskspace for redundancy.

Looking at the number of disks I suppose scsi is the way to go.

Dell makes some pretty decent (and cheap) servers as well.

Frank.

Arl� Mooldijk wrote:
> "Louis" <nospam@nospam.nl> wrote in message
> news:3ee728e8$0$49103$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> 
> 
>>We have a IBM RS6000 F50 running AIX 4.3.3 with 3 CPU's and 9 mirrored
> 
> disks
> 
>>and 1.5 GB internal memory. DBMS Basis 9.1 runs on it. This database can
> 
> be
> 
>>compared with Oracle regarding performance. However it's not
>>multi-threading.
>>
>>We are thinking of upgrading hardware. The F50 cannot handle the job
>>anymore. The Basis DBMS runs on AIX, Linux and SUN. Our database will be
>>around 60 GB and should be spreaded on multiple disks (at least 4). In
> 
> total
> 
>>we need at least 10 disks (20-40 GB). We need 2-4 GB memory.
> 
> 
> Why do you need at least 10 disks? Disks have more storage space these
> days...
> 
> 
>>The solution should be cheap but also reliable. So, we prefer cheap memory
>>and cheap (instead of expensive IBM SSA disks) SCSI or even IDE disks.
> 
> 
> Linux is cheap. If it is a serious server then I'd recommend SCSI with a
> RAID5 controller for the database storage and a mirrored disk for OS. This
> means about 5 disks minimum (3 for RAID5 and 2 for OS). HotSwap if desirable
> (but very nice and handy when you can afford it; saves you downtime when a
> disk fails). HP/Compaq is a good choice for Intel based servers. The support
> of HP is very good (personal experience).
> 
> Just my opinion though...
> 
> With Kind Regards,
> Arl�
> 
> 
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