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 pg <penang@catholic.org> wrote:

>In other words, Core Temp totally bombed.
>
>And I am _still_ looking for a utility that can report the CPU
>temperature reading to me. Is there such a utility available?

Might try Everest, one of it's many reports is  your CPU temp
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
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pg wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
> core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
> CPU temperature.
> 
> I have searched the net looking for such a utility, and on various
> software sites I have visited, all have highly recommended the
> following utilites:
>            RightMark CPU Clock Utility ( http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml
> ) and
>            Core Temp ( http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ )
> 
> I have downloaded both and tried them out.
> 
> Here are the results.
> 
> RightMark does run, and does correctly identity my CPU as "Presler".
> But on the "CPU Temperature" row, it gives me a "N/A" result. No luck.
> 
> Core Temp, on the other hand, both the 0.96.1.0 and the 0.94.0.0
> versions (I had to go to the net archive to retrieve the old version)
> simply refuses to run.
> 
> 0.96.1.0 gives me the following error:
>          This is not an Intel "Core" Architecture based processor.
> This program will not continue.
> 
> 0.04.0.0 gives me the following error:
>          This is not an Intel Core processor. This program will not
> continue.
> 
> In other words, Core Temp totally bombed.
> 
> And I am _still_ looking for a utility that can report the CPU
> temperature reading to me. Is there such a utility available?
> 
> Please help !
> 
> Many thanks in advance !

guarantee, the Pentium class processors are KNOWN to overheat- if you 
suspect its a problem, then it is!
upgrade your cpu fan, and look at cooling systems.
avoid overclocking,....and consider swapping your chip...i recommend a 
motherboard that supports AMD.

On Feb 18, 11:49 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:

> My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
> core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
> CPU temperature.

Could be overheating.
Take a cover off & clean out the dust, put an external fan on & see if
it behaves with the extra cooling. Make sure all the fans ( including
the power supply ) are spinning fast, with the power off, give them a
spin with a matchstick to make sure they not stuck.
Information about cleaning computer components
http://www.computerhope.com/cleaning.htm
http://www.wiscocomputing.com/articles/maintenance.htm
http://www.librarysupportstaff.com/4compcare.html
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial118.html
Getting The Grunge Out Of Your PC, Fred Langa cleans the dirtiest PC
he can find, and along the way shows you how you can easily tackle
yours.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403472
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403472&pgno=2
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403472&pgno=3
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403472&pgno=4
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403472&pgno=5
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403472&pgno=6
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403472&pgno=7
Quiet noisy computer fans with a drop of oil
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5034842.html?tag=tt

===================================

Maximum CPU temperatures
http://www.tongfamily.com/guide_to_pcs/001386.html
http://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/2hotornot.htm
AMD
http://www.cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/head_amd.htm
Intel
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-007999.htm

=================================

Motherboard/CPU temperature
http://www.coolmon.org/
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

On Feb 18, 10:52 am, Pennyw...@DerryMaine.Gov wrote:
>  pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
> >In other words, Core Temp totally bombed.
>
> >And I am _still_ looking for a utility that can report the CPU
> >temperature reading to me. Is there such a utility available?
>
> Might try Everest, one of it's many reports is  your CPU temphttp://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
> --
>
> Lineage ][http://flashgame.plaync.jp/dwarfcomplete.jsp


Thanks ! I'll try that out !

Thanks again !!

On Feb 18, 11:31 am, JohnMatt...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 18, 11:49 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>
> > My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
> > core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
> > CPU temperature.
>
> Could be overheating.
> Take a cover off & clean out the dust, put an external fan on & see if
> it behaves with the extra cooling. Make sure all the fans ( including
> the power supply ) are spinning fast, with the power off, give them a
> spin with a matchstick to make sure they not stuck.
> Information about cleaning computer componentshttp://www.computerhope.com/cleaning.htmhttp://www.wiscocomputing.com/articles/maintenance.htmhttp://www.librarysupportstaff.com/4compcare.htmlhttp://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial118.html
> Getting The Grunge Out Of Your PC, Fred Langa cleans the dirtiest PC
> he can find, and along the way shows you how you can easily tackle
> yours.http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...
> Quiet noisy computer fans with a drop of oilhttp://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5034842.html?tag=tt
>
> ===================================
>
> Maximum CPU temperatureshttp://www.tongfamily.com/guide_to_pcs/001386.htmlhttp://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/http://www.heatsink-guide.com/2hotornot.htm
> AMDhttp://www.cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/head_amd.htm
> Intelhttp://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-007999.htm
>
> =================================
>
> Motherboard/CPU temperaturehttp://www.coolmon.org/http://mbm.livewiredev.com/http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php


Many thanks for the links !!

Thanks again !

"catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
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...i recommend a
> motherboard that supports AMD.


LOL .. Right now Intel blows AMD out of the water. 

pg wrote:

> And I am _still_ looking for a utility that can report the CPU
> temperature reading to me. Is there such a utility available?

Motherboard Monitor
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,7309-order,1-page,1-c,system
resourcestuneup/description.html

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On Feb 18, 3:31 am, JohnMatt...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 18, 11:49 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>
> > My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
> > core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
> > CPU temperature.
>
> Could be overheating.
> Take a cover off & clean out the dust, put an external fan on & see if
> it behaves with the extra cooling. Make sure all the fans ( including
> the power supply ) are spinning fast, with the power off, give them a
> spin with a matchstick to make sure they not stuck.
> Information about cleaning computer componentshttp://www.computerhope.com/cleaning.htmhttp://www.wiscocomputing.com/articles/maintenance.htmhttp://www.librarysupportstaff.com/4compcare.htmlhttp://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial118.html
> Getting The Grunge Out Of Your PC, Fred Langa cleans the dirtiest PC
> he can find, and along the way shows you how you can easily tackle
> yours.http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...
> Quiet noisy computer fans with a drop of oilhttp://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5034842.html?tag=tt
>
> ===================================
>
> Maximum CPU temperatureshttp://www.tongfamily.com/guide_to_pcs/001386.htmlhttp://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/http://www.heatsink-guide.com/2hotornot.htm
> AMDhttp://www.cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/head_amd.htm
> Intelhttp://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-007999.htm
>
> =================================
>
> Motherboard/CPU temperaturehttp://www.coolmon.org/http://mbm.livewiredev.com/http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

Thanks, JohnMatt, for very handy links. :-)

> pg wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
>> core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
>> CPU temperature.
>> And I am _still_ looking for a utility that can report the CPU
>> temperature reading to me. Is there such a utility available?
>>

MSI provide such a utility on the driver cd - can't remember what it's 
called.

Also, MSI provide an online bios/driver update utility which is excellent - 
also found on the driver cd but can also be downloaded from MSI.

Speedfan is great if it works for you but can be a pain getting to know what 
each sensor refers to.

Temperature Monitoring Freeware

Core Temp - http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/
 - http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Coretemeter(beta) (Amd64 only) - http://cbid.amdclub.ru/html/download.html
Dtemp - http://private.peterlink.ru/tochinov/
Intel Tat - http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392
Motherboard monitor - http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
 - http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=311
NextSensor - http://winfuture.de/news,26608.html
 - http://www.majorgeeks.com/NextSensor_d4988.html
SpeedFan - http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

--------------------
Programmes that include temp. monitoring

AIDA32 - http://www.sofotex.com/AIDA32-download_L9326.html
ATITool - http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/
Everest - http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page2.html
- http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=everesthome
- was Aida32, changed to Everest, up to V2.2.0 free
Fresh Diagnose - http://www.freshdevices.com/cpu_test.html
Gkrellm - http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
PC Wizzard - http://www.cpuid.org/pcwizard
Samurize - http://www.samurize.com/modules/news/
SIV - http://siv.mysite.orange.co.uk/index.html

Lew wrote:
> "catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
> news:gV6uj.58853$FA.5994@pd7urf2no...
> ...i recommend a
>> motherboard that supports AMD.
> 
> 
> LOL .. Right now Intel blows AMD out of the water. 
> 
> 
intel always beats amd from pure clock speed, but amd are far more stable.
many mac die hards are left wondering why apple chose intel, despite 
rumours that intel has more resources to deliver processors on time, and 
a larger r&d budget- also something to do with lower voltages...but amd 
is still the acknowledged superior (though costlier) processor.

On Feb 18, 8:34 pm, sandy58 <alecki...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, JohnMatt, for very handy links. :-)

YW sandy58

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:12:42 GMT, catchme
<someone@somewhere.net> wrote:

>Lew wrote:
>> "catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
>> news:gV6uj.58853$FA.5994@pd7urf2no...
>> ...i recommend a
>>> motherboard that supports AMD.
>> 
>> 
>> LOL .. Right now Intel blows AMD out of the water. 
>> 

Depends on the scenario, AMD is still competitive in the
$100 and lower price tiers unless you're looking to
overclock.  Combine that with the lower average price of an
AM2 motherboard and AMD is the more attractive platform
processor for a low-end system.


>> 
>intel always beats amd from pure clock speed, but amd are far more stable.

?  Apples and oranges and both have quite stable solutions.


>many mac die hards are left wondering why apple chose intel, despite 
>rumours that intel has more resources to deliver processors on time, and 
>a larger r&d budget- also something to do with lower voltages...but amd 
>is still the acknowledged superior (though costlier) processor.

Currently Intel has a lead in the upper end, before that AMD
did, then Intel.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

"catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
news:evfuj.52358$Ly.50040@pd7urf1no...
> Lew wrote:
>> "catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
>> news:gV6uj.58853$FA.5994@pd7urf2no...
>> ...i recommend a
>>> motherboard that supports AMD.
>>
>>
>> LOL .. Right now Intel blows AMD out of the water.
> intel always beats amd from pure clock speed,


>but amd are far more stable.

For overclocking maybe, but not as a stock processor right out of the box.


> many mac die hards are left wondering why apple chose intel, despite 
> rumours that intel has more resources to deliver processors on time, and a 
> larger r&d budget- also something to do with lower voltages...but amd is 
> still the acknowledged superior (though costlier) processor. 

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:01:51 -1000, "Owner"
<Owner@noemail.com> wrote:

>
>"catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
>news:evfuj.52358$Ly.50040@pd7urf1no...
>> Lew wrote:
>>> "catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
>>> news:gV6uj.58853$FA.5994@pd7urf2no...
>>> ...i recommend a
>>>> motherboard that supports AMD.
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL .. Right now Intel blows AMD out of the water.
>> intel always beats amd from pure clock speed,
>
>
>>but amd are far more stable.
>
>For overclocking maybe, but not as a stock processor right out of the box.
>


If both are only conservatively overclocked - given enough
but not too much voltage, kept cool enough, and tested for
stability, then they're both stable overclocked.  However,
it should be noted that the typical Intel chip has more
overclocking headroom than AMD's alternative does at this
point in time.  For example in the lower end E2xxx or E4xxx
series you can come near or even exceed 200% of the stock
clockspeed without exceptional efforts, just having a decent
aftermarket heatsink.

Try motherboard monitor.

"pg" <penang@catholic.org> wrote in message 
news:83fbd430-c765-4ca2-b707-b0b5ed0e62a1@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Hello.
>
> My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
> core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
> CPU temperature.
>
> I have searched the net looking for such a utility, and on various
> software sites I have visited, all have highly recommended the
> following utilites:
>           RightMark CPU Clock Utility ( 
> http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml
> ) and
>           Core Temp ( http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ )
>
> I have downloaded both and tried them out.
>
> Here are the results.
>
> RightMark does run, and does correctly identity my CPU as "Presler".
> But on the "CPU Temperature" row, it gives me a "N/A" result. No luck.
>
> Core Temp, on the other hand, both the 0.96.1.0 and the 0.94.0.0
> versions (I had to go to the net archive to retrieve the old version)
> simply refuses to run.
>
> 0.96.1.0 gives me the following error:
>         This is not an Intel "Core" Architecture based processor.
> This program will not continue.
>
> 0.04.0.0 gives me the following error:
>         This is not an Intel Core processor. This program will not
> continue.
>
> In other words, Core Temp totally bombed.
>
> And I am _still_ looking for a utility that can report the CPU
> temperature reading to me. Is there such a utility available?
>
> Please help !
>
> Many thanks in advance ! 

"pg" <penang@catholic.org> wrote in message 
news:e3326432-34cd-4401-b140-b6e8d1176b75@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Many thanks for the links !!
> Thanks again !

Are you certain your Mobo supports temp sensing? Have you looked for 
sensors? 

"catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
news:gV6uj.58853$FA.5994@pd7urf2no...
>
> guarantee, the Pentium class processors are KNOWN to overheat-

No they aren't.  You are just talking about the later Pentium 4 types. 
Earlier Athlons used to run very hot, and they did not even shut down 
automatically and fried themselves!

ss. 

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message 
news:517jr3hhdpqaivlp9es5dl8189augktuku@4ax.com...
>
> Currently Intel has a lead in the upper end, before that AMD
> did, then Intel.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

Remind me when AMD had a clear lead, apart from when the Athlon64 was faster 
and more efficient than the P4?  Not saying that you are wrong, but I do not 
know of any other times.  Maybe you are talking from price/performance 
perspective on K6 vs PIII?  Surely the Coppermine and Tualatin PIIIs were 
better CPUs though..

ss. 

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:20:01 -0000, "Synapse Syndrome"
<synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

>"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message 
>news:517jr3hhdpqaivlp9es5dl8189augktuku@4ax.com...
>>
>> Currently Intel has a lead in the upper end, before that AMD
>> did, then Intel.  Lather, rinse, repeat.
>
>Remind me when AMD had a clear lead, apart from when the Athlon64 was faster 
>and more efficient than the P4?  Not saying that you are wrong, but I do not 
>know of any other times.  Maybe you are talking from price/performance 
>perspective on K6 vs PIII?  Surely the Coppermine and Tualatin PIIIs were 
>better CPUs though..
>
>ss. 
>

K6-III was faster excluding floating point, as was early
Athlon when considering price (always relevant since barely
anybody buys the high end.  I also preferred Coppermine and
Tualatin Celeron & P3 but not for the obvious reasons,
rather than they had more overclocking margin and on
average, superior chipsets for their motherboards.  Seems
most of the industry outside of server integrators  ignored
Tualatins though, they were all caught up in the
underwhelming P4 when it first came out.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:15:14 -0000, "Synapse Syndrome"
<synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

>"catchme" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message 
>news:gV6uj.58853$FA.5994@pd7urf2no...
>>
>> guarantee, the Pentium class processors are KNOWN to overheat-
>
>No they aren't.  You are just talking about the later Pentium 4 types. 
>Earlier Athlons used to run very hot, and they did not even shut down 
>automatically and fried themselves!

Athlons did not fry themselves without some overt system
builder mistake like not putting a heatsink on, choosing
some $3 'sink for a 50W chip so the fan failed, etc.
Granted it would've been nice if they had a thermal trip
feature at that point, but it really wasn't that big of a
deal, who really wants to have to depend on a system
shutting off instead of never doing so by building it right
in the first place?

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:00:48 -0500
kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

> Athlons did not fry themselves without some overt system
> builder mistake like not putting a heatsink on, choosing
> some $3 'sink for a 50W chip so the fan failed, etc.
> Granted it would've been nice if they had a thermal trip
> feature at that point, but it really wasn't that big of a
> deal, who really wants to have to depend on a system
> shutting off instead of never doing so by building it right
> in the first place?

Even if fans did fail, short of the heatsink faling right off, did they
really fry or just crash? I think they tended to accidentally save
themselves by drawing less power while crashed.

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:18:11 +0000, Tony Houghton
<h@realh.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:00:48 -0500
>kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> Athlons did not fry themselves without some overt system
>> builder mistake like not putting a heatsink on, choosing
>> some $3 'sink for a 50W chip so the fan failed, etc.
>> Granted it would've been nice if they had a thermal trip
>> feature at that point, but it really wasn't that big of a
>> deal, who really wants to have to depend on a system
>> shutting off instead of never doing so by building it right
>> in the first place?
>
>Even if fans did fail, short of the heatsink faling right off, did they
>really fry or just crash? I think they tended to accidentally save
>themselves by drawing less power while crashed.

Yes they'd crash if overly hot but perpetually overheating
due to failed fan damages the chip still.  What happens if a
system crashes?  It gets turned off or reset and tried again
to the extent it will eventually be cool enough to run then
overheat and crash and the cycle continues.

On Feb 20, 12:19 am, "Canon Guy" <B...@digital.net> wrote:
> "pg" <pen...@catholic.org> wrote in message
>
> news:e3326432-34cd-4401-b140-b6e8d1176b75@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Many thanks for the links !!
> > Thanks again !
>
> Are you certain your Mobo supports temp sensing? Have you looked for
> sensors?


The BIOS does have a section that shows the CPU temp, so my guess is
the motherboard does support temp sensing.