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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:22:02 +0930, support@net-x-pert.com (Greg Hains)
wrote:

>Hi.
>
>I have just purchased an ICOM R10 receiver. I also purchased a CT-17 
>level converter - a black box designed to control it.  I bought it under 
>the impression that I could program memories (etc) from my PC - easily - 
>not so.  There are other tools to do that, and I have ordered them.  I 
>have decided to pursue the CT-17 option, but only a command table comes 
>with it.
>
>Does anybody out there have a sample program/application where they have 
>used a CT-17 that they could send me? Icom say they don't supply them.
>
>While I'm at it, although Icom say that the CT-17 can talk to the R10, 
>there is no device listed in the CT-17 table that it refers to.
>
>If anybody can provide any information in regards to these units, I would 
>be most grateful.
>
I would be interested , too.
I was under the impression that you did not need a black box with the
ICR10......that the circuitry was in the radio and you only needed a
cable.
Maybe I have misunderstood the original post ?
Brian

On Sat, 08 Nov 1997 16:16:15 +1100, kenno <kenno@mira.net> wrote:

>Greg Hains wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I have just purchased an ICOM R10 receiver. I also
>> purchased a CT-17
>> level converter - a black box designed to control it.  I
>> bought it under
>> the impression that I could program memories (etc) from my
>> PC - easily -
>> not so.  There are other tools to do that, and I have
>> ordered them.  I
>> have decided to pursue the CT-17 option, but only a
>> command table comes
>> with it.
>>
>> Does anybody out there have a sample program/application
>> where they have
>> used a CT-17 that they could send me? Icom say they don't
>> supply them.
>>
>> While I'm at it, although Icom say that the CT-17 can talk
>> to the R10,
>> there is no device listed in the CT-17 table that it
>> refers to.
>>
>> If anybody can provide any information in regards to these
>> units, I would
>> be most grateful.
>>
>> Greg Hains
>
>Hi Greg,
>
>Sorry to hear you bought a CT-17 when you really only needed
>the RS-232 interface lead and the CS-R10 PC software. A few
>customers have been talked into buying the CT-17.
>
>The CT-17 level convertor box is a multi port interface box
>to allow connection of a variety equipments to a PC without
>attention to accurately setting output levels. See page 74
>of R-10 manual.
>
>Perhaps you can return the CT-17 for refund or cradit.
>
>Regards
>
>Ken
>
>
Ken,

Better have another look at your post  Attaching a direct RS-232
connection to either the Cloning port or the CI-V port of the R-10
will surely burn it up.  The R-10 can only use TTL voltage levels 5
volts max.  You appear to be suggesting it is ok to directly connect
the R-10 to a computers serial port.  The R-10 will not stand up to a
direct RS-232 connection without a level converter.
THIS REPLY DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY OFFICIAL POSITION of
MY EMPLOYER.  It represents only MY PERSONAL opinion.

Copyright 1997 All Rights Reserved

Gary 

Gary:

I think Ken's intentions were good.  There is a simple cable assembly
that consist of a DB9 RS232 connector, with a small cable, that has a
standard stereo mini phone plug on the other end .  What Ken may not have
been aware of is the DB9 shell, houses some small interface circuitry.
He was correct in saying that the ICOM CT-17 isn't required, and a bit of
an over kill.  You were also correct in saying that just a normal RS232
cable would be bad news.

Grove Communications sells the cable assembly I'm referring to, for
around $49.00, I recall.  And if I'm not wrong, the CT-17 goes for around
$140.00.  Grove also sells a DOS based program that allows you to
program, clone, etc., the IC-R10.  I think the software was around
$40.00.

Bill Crocker

Gary Fiber wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Better have another look at your post  Attaching a direct RS-232
> connection to either the Cloning port or the CI-V port of the R-10
> will surely burn it up.  The R-10 can only use TTL voltage levels 5
> volts max.  You appear to be suggesting it is ok to directly connect
> the R-10 to a computers serial port.  The R-10 will not stand up to a
> direct RS-232 connection without a level converter.
> THIS REPLY DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY OFFICIAL POSITION of
> MY EMPLOYER.  It represents only MY PERSONAL opinion.
>
> Copyright 1997 All Rights Reserved
>
> Gary

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Greg Hains wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I have just purchased an ICOM R10 receiver. I also
> purchased a CT-17
> level converter - a black box designed to control it.  I
> bought it under
> the impression that I could program memories (etc) from my
> PC - easily -
> not so.  There are other tools to do that, and I have
> ordered them.  I
> have decided to pursue the CT-17 option, but only a
> command table comes
> with it.
>
> Does anybody out there have a sample program/application
> where they have
> used a CT-17 that they could send me? Icom say they don't
> supply them.
>
> While I'm at it, although Icom say that the CT-17 can talk
> to the R10,
> there is no device listed in the CT-17 table that it
> refers to.
>
> If anybody can provide any information in regards to these
> units, I would
> be most grateful.
>
> Greg Hains

Hi Greg,

Sorry to hear you bought a CT-17 when you really only needed
the RS-232 interface lead and the CS-R10 PC software. A few
customers have been talked into buying the CT-17.

The CT-17 level convertor box is a multi port interface box
to allow connection of a variety equipments to a PC without
attention to accurately setting output levels. See page 74
of R-10 manual.

Perhaps you can return the CT-17 for refund or cradit.

Regards

Ken




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Gary Fiber wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Nov 1997 16:16:15 +1100, kenno <kenno@mira.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Greg Hains wrote:
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> I have just purchased an ICOM R10 receiver. I also
> >> purchased a CT-17
> >> level converter - a black box designed to control it.
> I
> >> bought it under
> >> the impression that I could program memories (etc) from
> my
> >> PC - easily -
> >> not so.  There are other tools to do that, and I have
> >> ordered them.  I
> >> have decided to pursue the CT-17 option, but only a
> >> command table comes
> >> with it.
> >>
> >> Does anybody out there have a sample
> program/application
> >> where they have
> >> used a CT-17 that they could send me? Icom say they
> don't
> >> supply them.
> >>
> >> While I'm at it, although Icom say that the CT-17 can
> talk
> >> to the R10,
> >> there is no device listed in the CT-17 table that it
> >> refers to.
> >>
> >> If anybody can provide any information in regards to
> these
> >> units, I would
> >> be most grateful.
> >>
> >> Greg Hains
> >
> >Hi Greg,
> >
> >Sorry to hear you bought a CT-17 when you really only
> needed
> >the RS-232 interface lead and the CS-R10 PC software. A
> few
> >customers have been talked into buying the CT-17.
> >
> >The CT-17 level convertor box is a multi port interface
> box
> >to allow connection of a variety equipments to a PC
> without
> >attention to accurately setting output levels. See page
> 74
> >of R-10 manual.
> >
> >Perhaps you can return the CT-17 for refund or cradit.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Ken
> >
> >
> Ken,
>
> Better have another look at your post  Attaching a direct
> RS-232
> connection to either the Cloning port or the CI-V port of
> the R-10
> will surely burn it up.  The R-10 can only use TTL voltage
> levels 5
> volts max.  You appear to be suggesting it is ok to
> directly connect
> the R-10 to a computers serial port.  The R-10 will not
> stand up to a
> direct RS-232 connection without a level converter.
> THIS REPLY DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY OFFICIAL POSITION of
> MY EMPLOYER.  It represents only MY PERSONAL opinion.
>
> Copyright 1997 All Rights Reserved
>
> Gary

  Gary,

I'm sorry my reply to Greg is not clear to you.

Let me explain...

I refer to _the_  (Icom) RS-232 interface since the subject
matter related to Icom equipment and accessories. The RS-232
interface in question being Icom catalogue part  number...
OPC-478.

Regards.


Ken

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>> >> I have just purchased an ICOM R10 receiver. I also
>> >> purchased a CT-17
>> >> level converter - a black box designed to control it.

>  Gary,
>
>I'm sorry my reply to Greg is not clear to you.
>
>Let me explain...
>
>I refer to _the_  (Icom) RS-232 interface since the subject
>matter related to Icom equipment and accessories. The RS-232
>interface in question being Icom catalogue part  number...
>OPC-478.
>
>Regards.
>
>
>Ken

The OPC-478 is for cloning through the speaker jack. The CT-17 is for
CI-V control through the side jack. It depends what the owner is going
to do. The OPC-478 has a level converter built into the DB-9,  the
level converter consists of 13 components.
THIS REPLY DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY OFFICIAL POSITION of
MY EMPLOYER.  It represents only MY PERSONAL opinion.

Copyright 1997 All Rights Reserved

Gary